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	The real advantage of an alloy diff is in the reduced unsprung mass, which is particularly important in a light car like a 1200.		The real advantage of an alloy diff is in the reduced unsprung mass, which is particularly important in a light car like a 1200.
-	[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=8845 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/photos/8845.jpg]	+	Rare alloy H165 carrier from 1967 Datsun 510 Bluebird (Series 1)
		+	<br>[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=8845 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/photos/8845.jpg]
	= Nissan Competition =		= Nissan Competition =
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	38100-N5505 4.875 R&P SET		38100-N5505 4.875 R&P SET
-	H165B RING & PINION SETS (TYPE I)	+	H165B RING & PINION SETS (TYPE II)
	The ring and pinion sets listed below will fit the HL510 (from 7/79) and 200SX/S110 (to 6/81).		The ring and pinion sets listed below will fit the HL510 (from 7/79) and 200SX/S110 (to 6/81).
	38100-W8600 3.364 R&P SET		38100-W8600 3.364 R&P SET
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	reference: [http://datsun1200.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=7640&post_id=18062&order=0&viewmode=flat&pid=18047&forum=1 diff ratios]		reference: [http://datsun1200.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=7640&post_id=18062&order=0&viewmode=flat&pid=18047&forum=1 diff ratios]
-	= Australia =	+	== Australia ==
	You can get 4.1:1 and 4.875:1 ratios quite easy, it is the same diff that Bluebirds (rwd Maxima) and C20 (Datsun Vanette) -- some with aluminum centers -- and some 4wd Datsun Pickup (non-1200 ute) front diffs (those are wider assemblies, though, so just use the center section).		You can get 4.1:1 and 4.875:1 ratios quite easy, it is the same diff that Bluebirds (rwd Maxima) and C20 (Datsun Vanette) -- some with aluminum centers -- and some 4wd Datsun Pickup (non-1200 ute) front diffs (those are wider assemblies, though, so just use the center section).
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	* Series 3 Bluebird wagon (910): 3.89:1		* Series 3 Bluebird wagon (910): 3.89:1
-	C120 van ratios	+	=== C120 Vanette ===
		+	C120 Ratios
	<br>[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=1240 http://ddgonzal.members.winisp.net/getThumb.aspx?width=400&uri=http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/1240.jpg]		<br>[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=1240 http://ddgonzal.members.winisp.net/getThumb.aspx?width=400&uri=http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/1240.jpg]
	5.143		5.143
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	3.889		3.889
		+	== North America ==
		+	=== 710 ===
		+	710 from 4/73 (TYPE I)
-	== A10 ==	+	=== S10 ===
-	1978-1981 Datsun 510/Stanza	+	Datsun S10 (Silvia/200SX) TYPE I
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		+	=== A10 ===
		+	1978-1981 Datsun A10 (510/Stanza/HL510)
		+	to 6/79 TYPE I
		+	from 7/79 TYPE II
	* 38300-W8700 FINAL DRIVE ASSY, 3.545 CANADA 0779-0680		* 38300-W8700 FINAL DRIVE ASSY, 3.545 CANADA 0779-0680
	* 38300-W8600 FINAL DRIVE ASSY, 3.364 CANADA 0780-		* 38300-W8600 FINAL DRIVE ASSY, 3.364 CANADA 0780-
	* 38300-W8600 FINAL DRIVE ASSY, 3.364 USA 0779-		* 38300-W8600 FINAL DRIVE ASSY, 3.364 USA 0779-
-	== S110 ==	+	=== S110 ===
-	1979-1982 Datsun 200SX/Silvia	+	1979-1982 Datsun 200SX/Silvia to 6/81
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		+	North American models were fitted with H190 starting in 7/81
-	North American models were fitted with H190 or H165	+	H165 models
	* 38100-W8800 GEAR SET-FINAL, 3.700 0179- Z20E+Z22E		* 38100-W8800 GEAR SET-FINAL, 3.700 0179- Z20E+Z22E
	* 38100-W8800 GEAR SET-FINAL, 3.700 0880- Z22E.MT		* 38100-W8800 GEAR SET-FINAL, 3.700 0880- Z22E.MT

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Revision as of 07:54, 2 February 2011

Hitachi H165 differentials were fitted to Datsun 1200 Sunny Trucks (B120). Type I (early) carriers were replaced by Type II in July 1979. The gear sets do not interchange between Type I and Type II.

Contents 1 Datsun 1200 Factory H165 2 Alloy Carrier 3 Nissan Competition 4 Donor Cars 4.1 Australia 4.1.1 C120 Vanette 4.2 North America 4.2.1 710 4.2.2 S10 4.2.3 A10 4.2.4 S110 5 Part Sources

Datsun 1200 Factory H165

Datsun B120 (1200 Sunny Truck) gear sets - H165 (HC41)
Type I carriers
* 38100-28500 4.111 HYPOID GEAR & PINION SET (37/9) (to '72-12)
* 38100-N5200 4.111 HYPOID GEAR & PINION SET (37/9) (from '73-1 to 7906)
 Type II carriers
* 38100-W9000 4.111 GEAR SET-FINAL DRIVE 7907-8605
* 38100-G3300 4.111 GEAR SET-FINAL DRIVE 8605-

Alloy Carrier

The real advantage of an alloy diff is in the reduced unsprung mass, which is particularly important in a light car like a 1200.

Rare alloy H165 carrier from 1967 Datsun 510 Bluebird (Series 1)

Nissan Competition

Also see H165 Conversion Listing

Page 29 of 1984 catalog

H165B RING & PINION SETS (TYPE I)
The ring and pinion sets listed below will fit the 710 (from 4/73), HL510 (to 6/79) and 200SX/S10.
38100-N4905 3.545 R&P SET
38100-N5000 3.700 R&P SET
38100-N5100 3.900 R&P SET
38100-N5200 4.111 R&P SET
38100-N5300 4.375 R&P SET
38100-N5400 4.625 R&P SET
38100-N5505 4.875 R&P SET 

H165B RING & PINION SETS (TYPE II)
The ring and pinion sets listed below will fit the HL510 (from 7/79) and 200SX/S110 (to 6/81).
38100-W8600 3.364 R&P SET
38100-W8700 3.545 R&P SET
38100-W8800 3.700 R&P SET
38100-W8900 3.900 R&P SET
38100-W9000 4.111 R&P SET
38100-W9108 4.375 R&P SET
38100-W9208 4.625 R&P SET
38100-W9300 4.875 R&P SET

H165B LIMITED-SLIP ASSY
38420-N5020 L/S ASSY (TYPE I) 710 (from 4/73), HL510 (to 6/79) and 200SX/S10
38420-A1260 L/S ASSY (TYPE II) HL510 (from 7/79) and 200SX/S110 (to 6/81)
38423-N5020 SIDE GEAR (2)
38425-18000 PINION (4)
38427-21010 SHAFT
38431-21010 PRESSURE RING (2)
38432-21010 FRICTION PLATE (1.65MM) (4)
38433-21010 FRICTION DISC (1.65MM) (4)
38433-21011 FRICTION PLATE (1.90MM) (4)
38434-E4610 SCREW (4)
38435-21010 SPRING PLATE (1.65MM) (2)
38436-21010 SPRING PLATE (1.65MM) (2)

H165 AXLES BAFFLES
These baffles can be installed in any Datsun equipped with an H165 rear axles assembly. They are designed to contain the differential oil in the center section.
43015-H7920 AXLE BAFFLE/RH
43016-H7920 AXLE BAFFLE/LH

DIFFERENTIAL OIL COOLER ASSY
21660-P9000 OIL PUMP ASSY
21664-P9000 BRACKET/OIL PUMP
21652-P9000 OIL COOLER ASSY

Donor Cars

Available from production vehicles: 3.7, 3.9, 4.111 & 4.875 reference: diff ratios

Australia

You can get 4.1:1 and 4.875:1 ratios quite easy, it is the same diff that Bluebirds (rwd Maxima) and C20 (Datsun Vanette) -- some with aluminum centers -- and some 4wd Datsun Pickup (non-1200 ute) front diffs (those are wider assemblies, though, so just use the center section).

* A10 Stanza/HL510 (1978-1982): 3.7:1
* 180B (610) wagon: 3.89:1
* Series 1 Bluebirds (810): 3.89:1
* Series 3 Bluebird wagon (910): 3.89:1

C120 Vanette

C120 Ratios

5.143
4.875
4.625
4.375
4.111
3.889

North America

710

710 from 4/73 (TYPE I)

S10

Datsun S10 (Silvia/200SX) TYPE I

A10

1978-1981 Datsun A10 (510/Stanza/HL510)

to 6/79 TYPE I
from 7/79 TYPE II

• 38300-W8700 FINAL DRIVE ASSY, 3.545 CANADA 0779-0680
• 38300-W8600 FINAL DRIVE ASSY, 3.364 CANADA 0780-
• 38300-W8600 FINAL DRIVE ASSY, 3.364 USA 0779-

S110

1979-1982 Datsun 200SX/Silvia to 6/81

North American models were fitted with H190 starting in 7/81

H165 models

* 38100-W8800 GEAR SET-FINAL, 3.700 0179- Z20E+Z22E
* 38100-W8800 GEAR SET-FINAL, 3.700 0880- Z22E.MT
* 38100-W8900 GEAR SET-FINAL, 3.898 0880- Z22E.AT

Part Sources

• Nissan
• Nismo
• Pit Road
  • LSD Nismo P/N 38420-RS110
• DatRats

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