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= Motor Mount Isolators = | = Motor Mount Isolators = | ||
- | The engine Brackets and rubber Isolators you use depends on which crossmember you use. | + | The rubber Isolators you use depends on which crossmember you use. For an L-series type crossmember the following are usually fitted. |
To put a KA/SR in a 510 you run 620 L-series motor mounts, which they are taller than 510 ones. Left and Right are slightly different, so some run two left side mounts, others use Left and Right as Datsun intended. | To put a KA/SR in a 510 you run 620 L-series motor mounts, which they are taller than 510 ones. Left and Right are slightly different, so some run two left side mounts, others use Left and Right as Datsun intended. | ||
- | SR20 and KA24E/KA24DE use this style rubber isolator. Buy at [http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/x,carcode,1208966,parttype,5552 RockAuto.com]: | + | Although most swappers use 510/620 style isolators because they are lower profile, SR20 and KA24E/KA24DE use this style rubber isolator as stock. Buy at [http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/x,carcode,1208966,parttype,5552 RockAuto.com]: |
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+ | Stock [[PB110]] or 510 type | ||
+ | * 11220-A3500 INSULATOR-engine mounting (2) $34 USD | ||
+ | * 11230-A3500 BRACKET ASS'Y-engine mounting front (R.H.) $48 USD | ||
+ | * 11233-A3500 BRACKET ASS'Y-engine mounting front (L.H.) $48 USD | ||
+ | $14 at [http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/x,carcode,1209989,parttype,5552 RockAuto.com] | ||
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- | Stock [[PB110]] or 510 type | + | 510 specs (L13 uses a softer LH mount than L16): |
- | * 11220-A3500 INSULATOR-engine mounting (2) $34 USD | + | * 11220-21004 INSULATOR LH L13 |
- | * 11230-A3500 BRACKET ASS'Y-engine mounting front (R.H.) $48 USD | + | * 11220-22000 INSULATOR LH L13, RH ALL |
- | * 11233-A3500 BRACKET ASS'Y-engine mounting front (L.H.) $48 USD | + | * 11220-A3500 INSULATOR ENGINE MTG FRONT (2) |
- | $14 at RockAuto.com http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/x,carcode,1209989,parttype,5552 | + | ** supercedes 11220-22000 |
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- | 510 specs (L13 uses a softer LH mount than L16): | + | |
- | * 11220-21004 INSULATOR LH L13 | + | |
- | * 11220-22000 INSULATOR LH L13, RH ALL | + | |
- | * 11220-A3500 INSULATOR ENGINE MTG FRONT (2) | + | |
- | ** supercedes 11220-22000 | + | |
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A10 (1978-1981 510) uses double-stud type: $14 at RockAuto.com | A10 (1978-1981 510) uses double-stud type: $14 at RockAuto.com |
Revision as of 07:26, 25 June 2012
L, Z, KA and SR all use the same crossmember mount points. For swapping any of these engines into a 1200, you can use the stock B110 L-series crossmember or an A-series crossmember suitably modified. Or, use the unmodified A-series crossmember with custom engine-side brackets.
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Oil Sump
Which crossmember you use determines which oil pan you should fit to the donor engine (or vice-versa). With Datsun 1200 crossmember which is front-sump design, it is best to use a front-sump pan with the donor engine.
For more details on oil pans, see the individual engine swap articles:
L-series Engine Swap Z-series Engine Swap KA Engine Swap SR engine swap
L and Z use the same oil pans, so swaps are easy.
Stock
Factory crossmember from L14-powered B110:
- 54401-H2500 MEMBER ASS'Y-cross, front suspension
- 54401-H2501 MEMBER ASS'Y-cross, front suspension (from '71-7)
- 81-34028-1 BOLT (4)
- 89-12340-1 NUT (4)
- 54408-21000 WASHER-plain
- 54408-U0100 WASHER-plain (from '71-7)
- 54407-21000 WASHER-plain
- 11220-A3500 INSULATOR-engine mounting (2)
- 11230-A3500 BRACKET ASS'Y-engine mounting front (R.H.)
- 11233-A3500 BRACKET ASS'Y-engine mounting front (L.H.)
- Uses Datsun 510 Transverse Links
- 54529-A0800 LINK ASS'Y-transverse, front suspension (R.H.)
- 54529-U0102 LINK ASS'Y-transverse, front suspension (R.H.)
- 54530-A0800 LINK ASS'Y-transverse, front suspension (L.H.)
- 54530-U0102 LINK ASS'Y-transverse, front suspension (L.H.)
L-series Horns
Stock 1200 crossmember with the horns (uprights) removed and Stanza L-series horns fitted. The Stanza horns fit right on. Use a drill for spotwelds and a grinder to remove the horns.
Custom Crossmember
Cut the stock 1200 crossmember uprights, weld flat plates at an engle to it. Drill a hole in each plate and slot them for bolting in the engine mount isolators (rubbers).
Here is a 1200 crossmember, horns removed and low profile horns fabricated:
You can modify the 1200 crossmember: Have the mounts trimmed to an angle simular to that of a 200B, then cut the 200B mounts in 1/2 to finish the job and locate the motor lower and improve the mounting angles. A 910 Bluebird L20B sump fits almost perfect, reshape it with a hammer a little just so it will clear the 1200 crossmember, maybe 1/2cm.
If using other sumps, you may need to do the following: * Remove notch from Datsun 1200 xmember * Reshape sump to clear the Drag Link (cross rod)
NOTE: These do not fit a 1200: * A10 (Stanza/510) crossmember * B210 (Sunny/120Y) crossmember * B310 (210/Sunny/120Y/140Y/150Y) * 510/610/710 crossmember
Custom Mounts
Some guys cut the stock crossmember horns (uprights), and weld on horns from a donor vehicle. Then you can use donor rubber isolators. But you don't have to modify the 1200 -- you can create new engine-side mount brackets, and use stock B110/B210/B310 crossmember and isolators.
Example
Z-series custom mounts to use with stock 1200 crossmember
might work for L/SR/KA too
You can use the stock 1200 or A12/A14 type crossmember and fit low-profile rubber mounts to it. Then drill simple angle iron to bolt to the engine to match up to the rubber mounts.
Fit stock 1200 crossmember unmodified:
B210, B310
Datsun B310 (210/Sunny) can use the crossmember from the Datsun A10 (Stanza/510). It is the same dimensions to bolt to the B310 chassis, but has horns (uprights) for L-series engine.
Details? Please share.
B210 can use a 510/610/710 crossmember. Some report fouling with the Tension Rods on some year/model B210, but a little grinding/cutting will solve that.
Motor Mount Isolators
The rubber Isolators you use depends on which crossmember you use. For an L-series type crossmember the following are usually fitted.
To put a KA/SR in a 510 you run 620 L-series motor mounts, which they are taller than 510 ones. Left and Right are slightly different, so some run two left side mounts, others use Left and Right as Datsun intended.
Although most swappers use 510/620 style isolators because they are lower profile, SR20 and KA24E/KA24DE use this style rubber isolator as stock. Buy at RockAuto.com:
Comparison: L-series isolator (Datsun 510)
Stock PB110 or 510 type * 11220-A3500 INSULATOR-engine mounting (2) $34 USD * 11230-A3500 BRACKET ASS'Y-engine mounting front (R.H.) $48 USD * 11233-A3500 BRACKET ASS'Y-engine mounting front (L.H.) $48 USD
$14 at RockAuto.com
510 specs (L13 uses a softer LH mount than L16): * 11220-21004 INSULATOR LH L13 * 11220-22000 INSULATOR LH L13, RH ALL * 11220-A3500 INSULATOR ENGINE MTG FRONT (2) ** supercedes 11220-22000
A10 (1978-1981 510) uses double-stud type: $14 at RockAuto.com
620 with L-series engine:
- 11220-B7900 INSULATOR-ENGINE MOUNTING FRONT (2) 1073-0874
- supercedes 11220-B2000 -0973
- 11220-B8000 INSULATOR-ENGINE MOUNTING FRONT RH 0974-
- 11221-B8000 INSULATOR-ENGINE MOUNTING FRONT LH 0974-
620 1973-1974 triple stud type, $5 at [RockAuto http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/x,carcode,1210105,parttype,5552]
620 1975-1978 single-stud type $3 to $14 at RockAuto.com http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/x,carcode,1210127,parttype,5552
These look the same as 510 isolators, but are likely a harder rubber.