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Gilmer belts differ most importantly from V-belts in that they are synchronous. They do not slip as they turn, so are suitable from driving the camshaft. They are also stronger so can turn a supercharger. They are lighter but more expensive than V-belts. A serpentine belt is a less exepensive version but is not synchronous (will still slip slight during normal usage). Gilmer belts differ most importantly from V-belts in that they are synchronous. They do not slip as they turn, so are suitable from driving the camshaft. They are also stronger so can turn a supercharger. They are lighter but more expensive than V-belts. A serpentine belt is a less exepensive version but is not synchronous (will still slip slight during normal usage).
-Aside from timing belts, Gilmer belts are most famously used for [[Supercharger]] belts. They are also somewhat commonly used on race engines for accessory drive (driving the water pump, etc).+Aside from timing belts, Gilmer belts are most famously used for [[supercharger]] belts. They are also somewhat commonly used on race engines for accessory drive (driving the water pump, etc).
Gilmer drive for water pump Gilmer drive for water pump
-<br>[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=864 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/864.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=695 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/695.JPG]+<br>{{Album|864}} {{AlbumH|695|JPG|267}}
-Timing belt: [[Toyota 4A engine|4AGE]] and [[Nissan CA Engine|CA18DE]]+Timing belt: [[Toyota 4A engine|4AGE]], [[Nissan CA Engine|CA18DE]], etc.
-<br>[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=826 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/826.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=3858 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/3858.jpg]+<br>{{Album|826|jpg|400}} {{AlbumH|3858|jpg|267}}
Supercharger belt Supercharger belt
-<br>[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=24190 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/24190.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=3493 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/3493.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=9590 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/9590.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=12437 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/12437.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=17707 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/17707.jpg]+<br>{{AlbumH|24190|jpg|300}} {{Album|3493}} {{Album|9590}} {{Album|12437}} {{Album|17707}}
-<img size=140>http://datsun1200.com/uploads/newbb/16063_53e95b128c10a.jpg</img>[http://datsun1200.com/uploads/newbb/16063_53e95b128c10a.jpg pic]+= How To =
-<img size=140>http://datsun1200.com/uploads/newbb/16063_53e95b32ab029.jpg</img>[http://datsun1200.com/uploads/newbb/16063_53e95b32ab029.jpg pic]+
- +
-=How To=+
Using a Small block chev (SBC) kit. Using a Small block chev (SBC) kit.
-[http://datsun1200.com/uploads/newbb/16063_53e95b128c10a.jpg pic]+{{Upload|16063_53e95b128c10a.jpg}} {{Upload|16063_53e95b32ab029.jpg}}
-<br><img size=400>http://datsun1200.com/uploads/newbb/16063_53e95b128c10a.jpg</img>+
-The alternator pulley goes straight on, water pump pulley just needs the Center machined out a little and for the crank is the issue.+The alternator pulley goes straight on, water pump pulley just needs the Center machined out a little and for the crank is the issue. Either take one of your spare crank pulleys get the v cut off the outside and machined with four bolt holes centered up and put together or get an adapter plate cnc for it.
-Either take one of your spare crank pulleys get the v cut off the outside and machined with four bolt holes centered up and put together or get an adapter plate cnc for it.+
Essentially the belt Lully was machined off in a lathe, a step put in it to help centre the new pulley and drilled and tapped. Essentially the belt Lully was machined off in a lathe, a step put in it to help centre the new pulley and drilled and tapped.
-[http://datsun1200.com/uploads/newbb/16063_53e965ae8c4e5.jpg pic]+{{Upload|16063_53e965ae8c4e5.jpg}} {{Upload|16063_53e965bc0bb1a.jpg}} {{Upload|16063_53e965c6b18bb.jpg}} {{Upload|16063_53e965e9850fe.jpg}} {{Upload|16063_53e965fd6c49a.jpg}}
-<br><img size=400>http://datsun1200.com/uploads/newbb/16063_53e965ae8c4e5.jpg</img>+
-[http://datsun1200.com/uploads/newbb/16063_53e965bc0bb1a.jpg pic]+You'll also need to think about you're belt tensioner you need to keep tension on these belts to make them whine!
-<br><img size=400>http://datsun1200.com/uploads/newbb/16063_53e965bc0bb1a.jpg</img>+
-[http://datsun1200.com/uploads/newbb/16063_53e965c6b18bb.jpg pic]+You will need to use a 320 belt.
-<br><img size=400>http://datsun1200.com/uploads/newbb/16063_53e965c6b18bb.jpg</img>+
-[http://datsun1200.com/uploads/newbb/16063_53e965e9850fe.jpg pic]+= Kemotorsport A-series kit =
-<br><img size=400>http://datsun1200.com/uploads/newbb/16063_53e965e9850fe.jpg</img>+* http://www.kemotorsport.com
-[http://datsun1200.com/uploads/newbb/16063_53e965fd6c49a.jpg pic]+Kemotorsport in South Australia made a limited edition A-series gilmer drive kit for $160.00 +postage. It is a direct bolt on installation.
-<br><img size=400>http://datsun1200.com/uploads/newbb/16063_53e965fd6c49a.jpg</img>+
-You'll also need to think about you're belt tensioner you need to keep tension on these belts to make them whine!+Remove your alternator, waterpump and crank pulley and replace with kemotorsport kit.
-You will need to use a 320 belt..+{{Upload|15999_5460559b5c484.jpg}}
-=Kemotorsport A-series kit=+Your original fan for your A-series will also fit with the waterpump pulley.
-*[http://www.kemotorsport.com/ http://www.kemotorsport.com/]+{{Upload|16063_53f67b40bf4b7.jpg}}
-Kemotorsport in South Australia made a limited edition A-series gilmer drive kit for $160.00 +postage.+= DIY =
 +[{{Post|337699}} anyoone wants a D.I.Y on how to install a gilmer drive on an A series engine?]
-It is a direct bolt on installation. +* pulleys $140 and belt cost $45
- +* Use the standard single belt crank pulley. get the single belt crank pulley recessed to the gilmer pulley fits in nicely and centre hole and 4x waterpump holes to line up. its just a small couple of mm right angle recess so that the gilmer pully can sit just inside the origional crank pulley on the engine.. $70
-Remove your alternator, waterpump and crank pulley and replace with kemotorsport kit.+* 10" thermo fan from supercheap auto $70
- +* couple of bolts and washers $10
-[http://datsun1200.com/uploads/newbb/thumbs/15999_5460559b5c484.jpg pic]+
-<br><img size=400>http://datsun1200.com/uploads/newbb/15999_5460559b5c484.jpg</img>+
- +
-Your original fan for your A-series will also fit with the waterpump pulley.+
-[http://datsun1200.com/uploads/newbb/16063_53f67b40bf4b7.jpg pic]+{{PB2|l73|Xx_MITCHELL_xX||P9190068.jpg}} {{PB2|l73|Xx_MITCHELL_xX||P9190069.jpg}} {{PB2|l73|Xx_MITCHELL_xX||P9190070.jpg}} {{PB2|l73|Xx_MITCHELL_xX||P9190071.jpg}} {{PB2|l73|Xx_MITCHELL_xX||P9190072.jpg}}
-<br><img size=400>http://datsun1200.com/uploads/newbb/16063_53f67b40bf4b7.jpg</img>+
= Write-ups = = Write-ups =
Discussions: Discussions:
-* [http://datsun1200.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=47822 wants a D.I.Y on how to install a gilmer drive on an A series engine?]+* [{{Post|337699}} anyoone wants a D.I.Y on how to install a gilmer drive on an A series engine?]
* [http://datsun1200.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=47828 A14 Gilmer Drive D.I.Y] * [http://datsun1200.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=47828 A14 Gilmer Drive D.I.Y]
* [http://datsun1200.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=46368 Has anyone ever put a gilmer belt drive kit on a A12?] * [http://datsun1200.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=46368 Has anyone ever put a gilmer belt drive kit on a A12?]
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* [http://www.kemotorsport.com/ http://www.kemotorsport.com/] * [http://www.kemotorsport.com/ http://www.kemotorsport.com/]
-[[Category:Engine Modifications]] [[Category:Engine Mechanical]] [[Category:Forced Induction]]+[[Category:Engine Modifications]] [[Category:Engine Mechanical]] [[Category:Forced Induction]]{{End}}

Revision as of 20:27, 17 September 2018

A gilmer drive is a syncronous drive system using a cogged belt. They were developed by the R.H. Gilmer company and first available for sale in 1949. Timing belts are a type of gilmer belt.

Contents

Overview

Gilmer belts differ most importantly from V-belts in that they are synchronous. They do not slip as they turn, so are suitable from driving the camshaft. They are also stronger so can turn a supercharger. They are lighter but more expensive than V-belts. A serpentine belt is a less exepensive version but is not synchronous (will still slip slight during normal usage).

Aside from timing belts, Gilmer belts are most famously used for supercharger belts. They are also somewhat commonly used on race engines for accessory drive (driving the water pump, etc).

Gilmer drive for water pump
864.jpgAlbum 864 695.JPGAlbum 695

Timing belt: 4AGE, CA18DE, etc.
826.jpgAlbum 826 3858.jpgAlbum 3858

Supercharger belt
24190.jpgAlbum 24190 3493.jpgAlbum 3493 9590.jpgAlbum 9590 12437.jpgAlbum 12437 17707.jpgAlbum 17707

How To

Using a Small block chev (SBC) kit.

16063_53e95b128c10a.jpgUpload click to view 16063_53e95b32ab029.jpgUpload click to view

The alternator pulley goes straight on, water pump pulley just needs the Center machined out a little and for the crank is the issue. Either take one of your spare crank pulleys get the v cut off the outside and machined with four bolt holes centered up and put together or get an adapter plate cnc for it.

Essentially the belt Lully was machined off in a lathe, a step put in it to help centre the new pulley and drilled and tapped.

16063_53e965ae8c4e5.jpgUpload click to view 16063_53e965bc0bb1a.jpgUpload click to view 16063_53e965c6b18bb.jpgUpload click to view 16063_53e965e9850fe.jpgUpload click to view 16063_53e965fd6c49a.jpgUpload click to view

You'll also need to think about you're belt tensioner you need to keep tension on these belts to make them whine!

You will need to use a 320 belt.

Kemotorsport A-series kit

Kemotorsport in South Australia made a limited edition A-series gilmer drive kit for $160.00 +postage. It is a direct bolt on installation.

Remove your alternator, waterpump and crank pulley and replace with kemotorsport kit.

15999_5460559b5c484.jpgUpload click to view

Your original fan for your A-series will also fit with the waterpump pulley.

16063_53f67b40bf4b7.jpgUpload click to view

DIY

POST anyoone wants a D.I.Y on how to install a gilmer drive on an A series engine?

  • pulleys $140 and belt cost $45
  • Use the standard single belt crank pulley. get the single belt crank pulley recessed to the gilmer pulley fits in nicely and centre hole and 4x waterpump holes to line up. its just a small couple of mm right angle recess so that the gilmer pully can sit just inside the origional crank pulley on the engine.. $70
  • 10" thermo fan from supercheap auto $70
  • couple of bolts and washers $10

P9190068.jpg P9190069.jpg P9190070.jpg P9190071.jpg P9190072.jpg

Write-ups

Discussions:

Suppliers

Gilmer drive parts, Cast Alloy Dry Sump Oil Pans With Windage Trays, oil filter adapters

A Series Gilmer Drive Kit

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