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L-series Engine Swap

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-The Nissan L-series engine (as in the 1600/510) is a good swap. Inexpensive, readily available both in USA and Australia, and these are a larger engine family than the [[Nissan A Engine]]. From L13 to L18, they are nearly identical on the outside. The L20B 2-liter engine is a tall-block variation but it still fits in the uncut Datsun 1200 sheetmetal. The [[Z-series Engine Swap|Z-series Engine]] is closely related but has a crossflow cylinder head.+The Nissan L-series engine (as in the 1600/510) is a good swap. Inexpensive, readily available both in USA and Australia, and these are a larger engine family than the [[Nissan A Engine]]. From L13 to L18, they are nearly identical on the outside. The L20B 2-liter engine is a tall-block variation but it still fits in the uncut Datsun 1200 sheetmetal. The [[Z-series Engine Swap|Z-series Engine]] is closely related but has a crossflow cylinder head.
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[http://datsun1200.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=5883&forum=1 L16], [http://datsun1200.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=6246&forum=1 L18], [http://datsun1200.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=6324&forum=1 L20B]. <br>NOTE: The [http://datsun1200.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=2089&forum=1#2112 L20B] is taller though so not commonly used, but it [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=43 will fit under the hood]. Nissan put the L14 in the Japan-only [[PB110]]. A super-rare racing engine was the [http://datsun1200.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=2849&forum=1 LZ20 twin-cam], fitted to 1200 racing cars. [http://datsun1200.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=5883&forum=1 L16], [http://datsun1200.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=6246&forum=1 L18], [http://datsun1200.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=6324&forum=1 L20B]. <br>NOTE: The [http://datsun1200.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=2089&forum=1#2112 L20B] is taller though so not commonly used, but it [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=43 will fit under the hood]. Nissan put the L14 in the Japan-only [[PB110]]. A super-rare racing engine was the [http://datsun1200.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=2849&forum=1 LZ20 twin-cam], fitted to 1200 racing cars.
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LZ20 DOHC engine LZ20 DOHC engine
-= Stubby Transmission = 
-Using a stubby transmission will line up with the 1200 shifter hole. It is about 5 or 6 inches shorter than the more common L-engine transmissions. 
-* Or use a standard L-engine tranmission. The only bit of cutting wil be 1/2 of the gearstick hole but that can be welded that back in the other side to make the factory rubber shifter gasket fit back in 
-[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=2118 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/2118.jpg]+= Transmission =
-* Comparo: Stubby vs Regular transmission+Transmissions for Z engine and L engine bolt to either engine but the L engine is slanted by about 15 degrees, so it affects the angle the shifter comes out. Note the CA Engines have a different bell pattern so their gearboxes do not fit the L Engine.
-* Notice the shifter location (top part of picture)+ 
 + 
 +Using a '''stubby transmission''' will line up with the 1200 shifter hole. It is about 5 or 6 inches shorter than the more common L-engine transmissions. These are also called shorty or short-tailed.
 +* Stubby is ~26.3 inches -- same length as Datsun 510 automatic transmission
 + 
 + 
 +4-speed stubby gearboxes are common:
 +* 1968-1973 Datsun 510 ("1600") F4W63
 + 
 + 
 +5-speed stubby gearboxes comes from:
 +* 1981-1985 [[wikipedia:Nissan_Skyline#R30|R30 Skyline]] with L24 six-cylinder engine
 +* 1977-1979 200SX USA S10 (L-series engine, FS5W63 "smoothcase" dogleg)
 +* 1968-1973 PL510 (L-series engine, F4W63 "bottom pan")
 +* 720 FS5W71B "ribbed case" used on certain 720 4X4s (long wheelbase?)
 +** Z-engined series
 +** may have had an L series in 1980 only
 + 
 + 
 + 
 +Comparo
 +* Regular
 +** ~31.5 inches overall transmission length
 +** transmission extension housing about same length as (front) transmission case
 +** From the bottom front of the bell housing to the cross member bolts is ~21-1/2"
 + 
 +* Stubby
 +** ~26.3 inches overall transmission length
 +** transmission extension housing about 5" shorter than transmission case
 + 
 + 
 +Or use a standard L-engine tranmission. The only bit of cutting wil be 1/2 of the gearstick hole but that can be welded that back in the other side to make the factory rubber shifter gasket fit back in. You can see it here:
 +* [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=2118 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/2118.jpg]
 +*: Comparo: Stubby vs Regular transmission
 +*: Notice the shifter location (top part of picture)
 + 
 + 
 +Photo Gallery: L Engine transmission comparison photos at http://forum.ratsun.net/showthread.php?t=2373 Ratsun.net]

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The Nissan L-series engine (as in the 1600/510) is a good swap. Inexpensive, readily available both in USA and Australia, and these are a larger engine family than the Nissan A Engine. From L13 to L18, they are nearly identical on the outside. The L20B 2-liter engine is a tall-block variation but it still fits in the uncut Datsun 1200 sheetmetal. The Z-series Engine is closely related but has a crossflow cylinder head.


L16, L18, L20B.
NOTE: The L20B is taller though so not commonly used, but it will fit under the hood. Nissan put the L14 in the Japan-only PB110. A super-rare racing engine was the LZ20 twin-cam, fitted to 1200 racing cars.

92.jpg L18 fitted

95.jpg LZ20 DOHC engine


Transmission

Transmissions for Z engine and L engine bolt to either engine but the L engine is slanted by about 15 degrees, so it affects the angle the shifter comes out. Note the CA Engines have a different bell pattern so their gearboxes do not fit the L Engine.


Using a stubby transmission will line up with the 1200 shifter hole. It is about 5 or 6 inches shorter than the more common L-engine transmissions. These are also called shorty or short-tailed.

  • Stubby is ~26.3 inches -- same length as Datsun 510 automatic transmission


4-speed stubby gearboxes are common:

  • 1968-1973 Datsun 510 ("1600") F4W63


5-speed stubby gearboxes comes from:

  • 1981-1985 R30 Skyline with L24 six-cylinder engine
  • 1977-1979 200SX USA S10 (L-series engine, FS5W63 "smoothcase" dogleg)
  • 1968-1973 PL510 (L-series engine, F4W63 "bottom pan")
  • 720 FS5W71B "ribbed case" used on certain 720 4X4s (long wheelbase?)
    • Z-engined series
    • may have had an L series in 1980 only


Comparo

  • Regular
    • ~31.5 inches overall transmission length
    • transmission extension housing about same length as (front) transmission case
    • From the bottom front of the bell housing to the cross member bolts is ~21-1/2"
  • Stubby
    • ~26.3 inches overall transmission length
    • transmission extension housing about 5" shorter than transmission case


Or use a standard L-engine tranmission. The only bit of cutting wil be 1/2 of the gearstick hole but that can be welded that back in the other side to make the factory rubber shifter gasket fit back in. You can see it here:

  • 2118.jpg
    Comparo: Stubby vs Regular transmission
    Notice the shifter location (top part of picture)


Photo Gallery: L Engine transmission comparison photos at http://forum.ratsun.net/showthread.php?t=2373 Ratsun.net]


L20B Swap

The L20B is a 2-liter four cylinder engine. Not to be confused with the L20 six cylinder. 14151.jpg

  • no holes cut
  • just panel beat the lower corners of the front of the tunnel with a hammer, as the L series is wider
  • modify the engine mounts and make a crossmember
    • 1200 crossmember had the mounts trimmed to an angle simular to that of an 810, then cut the 810 mounts in 1/2 to finish the job and locate the motor lower and improve the mounting angles.
  • 810 oil sump is a near-perfect fit in the 1200, reshape it a little just so it will clear the crossmember, maybe 1/2cm with a hammer
  • fitting the radiator in isn't a problem. you'll need a thermostat-controlled fan in front of the radiator (i.e. on the grill side)


Sources

  • Datsun 810 Australia model with L20B engine
  • Datsun 620 pickup circa 1977, USA with L20B engine