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| Mazda626 |
Posted: 2004/8/18 14:43 Updated: 2004/8/18 14:43 |
Home away from home   Joined: 2003/7/12 From: Mandurah WA Posts: 152 |
 Re: Blown 1400 Just like a sprinkler you have in your garden the type that spray mist, There is a low pressure pump that runs the water from the reservoir too the line and injects water before the t/b or in this case the carby.
The water evaporates and becomes air, which is more dense because its colder.
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Posted: 2004/8/18 14:45 Updated: 2004/8/18 14:45 |
Home away from home   Joined: 2004/1/29 From: Posts: 966 |
 Re: Blown 1400 are right!... so its just a constant flow.. hmmm i like.... i like a lot.. 
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Posted: 2004/8/18 22:53 Updated: 2004/8/18 22:53 |
No life (a.k.a. DattoMaster)   Joined: 2002/8/6 From: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 3792 |
 Re: Blown 1400 typically water injection is only used at WOT, activated by a micro switch. More sophisticated setups also reference boost levels. When activated, flow is constant, and flow rates can be controlled by a variable valve in the pressure supply line, or by the flow rate of the nozzle, or a method of controlling the pump speed.
Some people have the mistaken impression that it suppresses ignition, and thats why it helps contol detonation. Water injection helps control detonation because it is a form of charge cooling. It increases power, and can even provide noticeable improvements on NA cars.
It has other benefits as well, such as preventing and actively breaking down carbon build up in the ports and combustion chambers. This helps maintain optimum performance by removing the build up of carbon on the back of inlet valve that can impede flow, and removing carbon deposits in the combustion chamber that can be hot-spots which cause preignition.
we used water injection on our old turbo A14, and got very good results with a very simple system. The injection nozzle was a fine mist, low pressure irrigation fitting mounted over the secondary barrel of the carb. No pumps were used at all, it relied on the low pressure (suction) created by the turbo and speed of airflow over the nozzle.
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Posted: 2004/8/18 23:12 Updated: 2004/8/18 23:12 |
Just can't stay away   Joined: 2002/3/5 From: SA the place to boost Posts: 81 |
 Re: Blown 1400 that thing in the middle of the manifold is a hobbs pressure switch, which turns the water pump on at a certain level of boost.
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Posted: 2004/8/18 14:32 Updated: 2004/8/18 14:32 |
Home away from home   Joined: 2003/7/12 From: Mandurah WA Posts: 152 |
 Re: Blown 1400
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Posted: 2004/8/18 14:35 Updated: 2004/8/18 14:35 |
Home away from home   Joined: 2004/1/29 From: Posts: 966 |
 Re: Blown 1400 yeh injected into the air/fuel mixture? but how is it done? through a fuel injector in the manifold? hows the injector no wen to let water through?
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Posted: 2004/3/21 23:16 Updated: 2004/3/21 23:16 |
No life (a.k.a. DattoMaster)   Joined: 2002/10/28 From: under the Firmament LOL no twiglight effect BS Posts: 10994 |
 Re: Blown 1400 Who did the work and tuned it? Its a master piece!!! 
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Posted: 2004/3/22 0:18 Updated: 2004/3/22 0:18 |
No life (a.k.a. DattoMaster)   Joined: 2001/10/15 From: Arlington, TX, USA Posts: 1305 |
 Re: Blown 1400 Sweeet... That'd be one way to get me to keep an A-series in my car. 
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Posted: 2004/3/22 1:49 Updated: 2004/3/22 1:49 |
No life (a.k.a. DattoMaster)   Joined: 2003/5/8 From: Perth W.A Posts: 1382 |
 Re: Blown 1400 Very neat, very neat looks good blown1400 im impressed 
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Posted: 2004/3/22 1:56 Updated: 2004/3/22 1:56 |
No life (a.k.a. DattoMaster)   Joined: 2002/8/6 From: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 3792 |
 Re: Blown 1400 does look good. any power figures?
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Posted: 2004/3/22 7:06 Updated: 2004/3/22 7:06 |
Home away from home   Joined: 2003/4/29 From: GOLD COAST AUZ Posts: 360 |
 Re: Blown 1400 All that on a small port head.
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Posted: 2004/3/22 7:13 Updated: 2004/3/22 7:13 |
No life (a.k.a. DattoMaster)   Joined: 2002/8/6 From: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 3792 |
 Re: Blown 1400 dunno mate, look at the bits of gasket poking out...it seems to have the oval port gasket. it might just be a genuine 1200GX head!
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Posted: 2004/3/22 7:31 Updated: 2004/3/22 7:31 |
No life (a.k.a. DattoMaster)   Joined: 2003/12/3 From: Christchurch NZ Posts: 3707 |
 Re: Blown 1400 I bet extending the blower drive was a trick. my blower sits forward so my intake runners arent all eqal lengths. ( mind you not all factory inlet manifols are equal lengths so Im not worried) I like it , I like it lots.
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Posted: 2004/3/22 7:34 Updated: 2004/3/22 7:34 |
Home away from home   Joined: 2003/4/29 From: GOLD COAST AUZ Posts: 360 |
 Re: Blown 1400 Not to many bolts on that manifold top side
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Posted: 2004/3/22 8:50 Updated: 2004/3/22 8:50 |
Quite a regular   Joined: 2003/12/23 From: Canberra, Aust. Posts: 48 |
 Re: Blown 1400 Hey thanks lads. A dude up in Darwin did most of the fabrication work for the inlet manifold and convinced me to go for the water injection.
Don't know if anyone noticed the swollen water pipe for the water injection??? I forgot that the water pump is putting out 35psi and the hose can only really handle about 15psi- will let go one day and I will replace it with fuel hose...
Power is around 120 hp at the wheels...
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Posted: 2004/4/26 12:30 Updated: 2004/4/26 12:30 |
No life (a.k.a. DattoMaster)   Joined: 2003/1/5 From: campbelltown (sydney) australia Posts: 1802 |
 Re: Blown 1400 can u tell me what the thing in the middle of the inlet manifold is for? boost gauge maybe???
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Posted: 2004/4/26 12:58 Updated: 2004/4/26 12:58 |
No life (a.k.a. DattoMaster)   Joined: 2003/5/5 From: Okinawa, Japan Posts: 1292 |
 Re: Blown 1400 Many people modify oval port heads with center bolt intake mount holes (at least in Japan) as it's said to have better sealing. Mine is: 
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Posted: 2004/4/26 13:15 Updated: 2004/4/26 13:15 |
No life (a.k.a. DattoMaster)   Joined: 2003/1/5 From: campbelltown (sydney) australia Posts: 1802 |
 Re: Blown 1400 no not the extra bolt, the thing with the three vacuum lines, and the wires in the back tapped into the plenum ????
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Posted: 2004/4/26 14:10 Updated: 2004/4/26 14:10 |
No life (a.k.a. DattoMaster)   Joined: 2003/5/5 From: Okinawa, Japan Posts: 1292 |
 Re: Blown 1400 I was replying to holeshot... I think that's his water injection.
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Posted: 2004/8/18 12:39 Updated: 2004/8/18 12:39 |
Home away from home   Joined: 2004/1/29 From: Posts: 966 |
 Re: Blown 1400 sorry for bringing an old post up, but how does the water injection work? 
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Posted: 2004/8/18 13:46 Updated: 2004/8/18 13:46 |
Home away from home   Joined: 2003/11/30 From: Sydney.au Posts: 597 |
 Re: Blown 1400 woodydat i know nothing and i can tell you this. ask google rallycars.com's explanation is hereon the link it says Quote: The sole function of water injection is avoiding detonation. i guess this means to avoid detonation at the wrong time. anyway very nice setup there blown1400 
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Posted: 2004/8/18 14:14 Updated: 2004/8/18 14:14 |
Home away from home   Joined: 2004/1/29 From: Posts: 966 |
 Re: Blown 1400 wowzas! i neva thought it actually injected water in to the fuel air mixture i did a few searches on google on what runs the injection but couldnt find much? what runs it is it like a computer or a litle motor manual turned on or what? what kind of injexctors are used etc? what kinda mialeage do u get from the water 
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