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A: another one on top just 2 see if it does anything works and looks all right

B: stuffed

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Burke_a_lot
Posted: 2007/3/10 12:30  Updated: 2007/3/10 12:30
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 Re: another one on top
note: 2 anyone that does this it may be different 4 newer cars.

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Dodgeman
Posted: 2007/3/10 11:40  Updated: 2007/3/10 11:40
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 Re: another one on top
If these things actually produced any benefit whatsoever, then the factory would have turned them out by the tens of millions, at about 2.3 cents each, & made all sorts of claims of wondrous new advances in technology, & told us just how much more power & economy we would get. They could have easily added $1 to the price of the car & made a profit as well.

They didn't, so you get to figure out why. It isn't too hard.

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Burke_a_lot
Posted: 2007/3/10 11:54  Updated: 2007/3/10 11:54
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 Re: another one on top
it's a stock car that's 68HP, the thing makes a not bad up rise of 17HP, that makes 85HP, not 2 bad 4 home made.

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pepper
Posted: 2007/3/10 11:56  Updated: 2007/3/10 11:56
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 Re: another one on top
surely your not saying that a chopped up soft drink can gave you an extra 17hp.

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Burke_a_lot
Posted: 2007/3/10 11:59  Updated: 2007/3/10 11:59
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 Re: another one on top
no, not at all the one on the inside is stainless steal, the one on top is just for show now.

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pepper
Posted: 2007/3/10 12:01  Updated: 2007/3/10 12:01
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 Re: another one on top
so the one inside makes 17hp because its made from stainless, and not for show?

how do you know for sure you have 17 more horsepower?

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Burke_a_lot
Posted: 2007/3/10 12:11  Updated: 2007/3/10 12:11
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 Re: another one on top
I should of said 'about 17' could be more, could be less I measure in a number of ways first theres a voltage output stock 14.4v but when I installed it whent up 2 16.2v+ so if you do the adding it comes to about 17 because 90HP can do about 16.8v+

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blofly
Posted: 2007/3/10 12:16  Updated: 2007/3/10 12:16
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 Re: another one on top
huh whats that about volts? come again
Are you measuring voltage from the alternator?



I'M LOST

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Burke_a_lot
Posted: 2007/3/10 12:19  Updated: 2007/3/10 12:19
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 Re: another one on top
yep, if the car is running at high revs the volt out put high. go 2 my web site and then go to 'stuff' that may help u understand.

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Dodgeman
Posted: 2007/3/10 12:23  Updated: 2007/3/10 12:23
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 Re: another one on top
It looks like we have been geting ripped off for years. Racers have been paying out big bucks for dyno work when all they needed was a cheap volt meter instead.

What a money saver.

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rb20
Posted: 2007/3/10 12:23  Updated: 2007/3/10 12:23
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 Re: another one on top
that will have noting to do with your horse power dude

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Burke_a_lot
Posted: 2007/3/10 12:26  Updated: 2007/3/10 12:26
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 Re: another one on top
well dude u back because everyone in hay does it that way that's where I got it from.

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Dodgeman
Posted: 2007/3/10 12:28  Updated: 2007/3/10 12:28
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 Re: another one on top
I think that we have much to learn about 'down on the farm' logic. Good one there.

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blofly
Posted: 2007/3/10 12:37  Updated: 2007/3/10 12:37
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 Re: another one on top
so your saying the faster your engine can turn the alternator the more power it is making?
Cool theory but I think I speak for all of us by saying that theres only two ways of measuring power increasements
1) Dyno run
2) quarter mile time
The alternator only makes voltage by turning, the faster it turns the more voltage it puts out regulated by a regulator internal or external which ever kind of alternator you have.
If I installed competition valve springs on a stock A12 and left the carb cam and head alone I could safely rev it to 7000rpm+ until the carb reached it's flow limit, and the alternator would be spinning a hell of a alot more but the car wouldn't be making stuff all power increase if any, it would probably peak out at 5000rpm and fall from there due to the little carbie, exhaust, points ignition etc
but just for interest and curiosity try timing a 0-100kmph run with the thingy installed and without the thingy installed

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Burke_a_lot
Posted: 2007/3/10 14:09  Updated: 2007/3/10 14:09
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 Re: another one on top
yes the 'Dyno run' and '1/4 mile' r more accurate.

4 people who r not believing this send it to 'myth busters' and let them put the skill to the test.

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killer1200
Posted: 2007/3/10 14:25  Updated: 2007/3/10 14:25
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 Re: another one on top
If anything thats going to give you less HP by stopping airflow.

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pepper
Posted: 2007/3/10 14:30  Updated: 2007/3/10 14:30
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 Re: another one on top
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I should of said 'about 17' could be more, could be less I measure in a number of ways first theres a voltage output stock 14.4v but when I installed it whent up 2 16.2v+ so if you do the adding it comes to about 17 because 90HP can do about 16.8v+


that is a lot of poop, you cant measure horsepower from what voltage the alternator puts out

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yep, if the car is running at high revs the volt out put high. go 2 my web site and then go to 'stuff' that may help u understand.


i checked out your website to "verify" these claims, and nowhere in any of the info you lifted from martybugs.net does it say you can measure horsepower from the alternator

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Burke_a_lot
Posted: 2007/3/10 17:53  Updated: 2007/3/10 17:53
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 Re: another one on top
that's it YOU win, how about a agreement YOU do it your way and I do it MY way. sounds fair good luck with your datto and I hope I have not assaulted you or anyone else.

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pepper
Posted: 2007/3/10 18:03  Updated: 2007/3/10 18:03
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 Re: another one on top
ok sounds fair, im gonna upgrade to 24v electrics in mine now, should make for some massive hp.

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Mawler1
Posted: 2007/3/10 19:22  Updated: 2007/3/10 19:22
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 Re: another one on top
I wouldn't do that pepper, I'd do what I have done: 650 Cold cranking amp Truck (NOT A PICKUP - Osh Kosh) battery, mind you, I think 650 CCA might have a detrimental effect on starter motors..

thankfully I have heaps of spares...

Dad reckons when I crank my 120Y over he can hear it from the house which is 150-200 feet away

I have been given a Stanza and (another) two Sunnys... PLAN: put the Stanza undercarriage under one of the Sunny's!

oh and Burkey I also reccomended the hotdog because while an A12 with open exhaust sounds cool, after thrashing around for a 3 days with an open system I HAD to put it back on... as it drove dad nuts... and I'm sure the neighbours too!... I imagine an L series sounds at least a little better....

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pepper
Posted: 2007/3/10 13:08  Updated: 2007/3/10 13:08
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 Re: another one on top
Quote:
everyone in hay does it that way




you guys in hay are on the junk.!

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Mawler1
Posted: 2007/3/10 13:16  Updated: 2007/3/10 13:16
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 Re: another one on top
The Iron Maiden's engine is a bit crook... but I have a spare A12...

So I'm not going to try to use burkes idea...

I'll just fit another A12...

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ddgonzal
Posted: 2007/3/10 13:24  Updated: 2007/3/10 13:24
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 Re: another one on top
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voltage output stock 14.4v but when I installed it whent up 2 16.2v+
Your measurement proves the Voltage Regulator is defective.

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Burke_a_lot
Posted: 2007/3/9 11:58  Updated: 2007/3/9 11:58
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 Re: another one on top
if any 1 has any comments, go 4 it

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dattodude
Posted: 2007/3/9 12:14  Updated: 2007/3/9 12:14
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 Re: another one on top
I can see part of this gadget getting ripped off and sucked through the cylinder. Sorry dude, you'd have done better to spend your time sleeping or reading a book.

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Burke_a_lot
Posted: 2007/3/9 12:18  Updated: 2007/3/9 12:18
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 Re: another one on top
I know, I think i'll just keep the one on the inside 4 now, unless I put some mesh over it, nar your right i'll make a stronger one.

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pepper
Posted: 2007/3/9 12:19  Updated: 2007/3/9 12:19
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 Re: another one on top
what is it meant to do?
its not one of those 'turbonator' things is it?

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benddatsun
Posted: 2007/3/9 12:20  Updated: 2007/3/9 12:20
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 Re: another one on top
the homebrew turbonator

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Burke_a_lot
Posted: 2007/3/9 12:22  Updated: 2007/3/9 12:22
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 Re: another one on top
the one on top is just for show now, but the real one I made is inside, the homebrew turbonator

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Mildman
Posted: 2007/3/9 12:23  Updated: 2007/3/9 12:23
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 Re: another one on top
Besides restricting air flow to the carby I can't guess another function?

I'm also interested in what you think it is meant to do?

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Skey
Posted: 2007/3/9 12:24  Updated: 2007/3/9 12:24
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 Re: another one on top
Did you get the 35hp gain??

Oh yeah, you owe me $100 for copying my design

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pepper
Posted: 2007/3/9 12:26  Updated: 2007/3/9 12:26
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 Re: another one on top
Quote:
Did you get the 35hp gain??


oh come on!!!! ittd have to be good for at least 50


warning:horsepower delivered in form of huge dissapointment!

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Burke_a_lot
Posted: 2007/3/9 12:29  Updated: 2007/3/9 12:29
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 Re: another one on top
don't know not done yet

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LittleFireyOne
Posted: 2007/3/9 17:45  Updated: 2007/3/9 17:45
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 Re: another one on top
I't's like the Hiclone thing you see on tv but never buy cos it's easier and cheaper to make one.

The logic behind it makes enough sense to me but I think the design would have to be tweaked with every other mod done to the engine so as to not to become detremental to the airflow.

It's like fans, they have a "sweet spot" at which they work the best not creating exsessive turbulance and sh*t.

What people have been paying more attention to in recent years is how smooth people are making inlet manifolds when they mod them. The petrol does tend to stick to the walls more and isn't getting mixed with the air which also isn't getting ruffled like it should.

That's just me sounding like an engineer, which I'm not though and once you go putting turbo through it it doesn't really matter to most people

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ddgonzal
Posted: 2007/3/10 5:36  Updated: 2007/3/10 5:36
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 Re: another one on top
There's 1000 times more turbulence in the venturi than a rotating wheel will cause.


Has anyone tried putting magnets on the fuel line?

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Skey
Posted: 2007/3/10 6:40  Updated: 2007/3/10 6:40
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 Re: another one on top
Quote:
Has anyone tried putting magnets on the fuel line?


Yes, It makes an excellent place to keep nuts and bolts during repair

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Mawler1
Posted: 2007/3/10 10:08  Updated: 2007/3/10 10:08
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 Re: another one on top
I haven't, but my sister an brother in law did, on a '84 F100 5.8 (351) 4WD... from perth to kalgoorlie cost $150 in fuel, they had it tuned up while they were there, and on the way back $100 fuel bill!

if your trying to tune it up here's an easier way... lengthen the exhaust and put a hotdog on it as I'm sure FESA wouldn't be happy if you started a fire...

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Burke_a_lot
Posted: 2007/3/10 11:05  Updated: 2007/3/10 11:05
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I'm sure FESA wouldn't be happy if you started a fire...


fire? theres nothing to burn!