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b310gx
Posted: 2004/3/20 10:50  Updated: 2004/3/20 10:50
No life (a.k.a. DattoMaster)
Joined: 2002/7/19
From: sydney australia
Posts: 1858
 Re: green 2-dr sedan with 1.8 liter toyomotor
is that a 2tg.a friend of mine had a head for one of these,you could have driven down the inlet ports.a bit big for 1600cc,i thought.

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D
Posted: 2004/3/21 23:32  Updated: 2004/3/21 23:32
No life (a.k.a. DattoMaster)
Joined: 2002/10/28
From: under the Firmament LOL no twiglight effect BS
Posts: 10933
 Re: green 2-dr sedan with 1.8 liter toyomotor
These babies can make around 180hp with the right bits and turbo charged almost double with the Dodge hemi design ports, valve arrangement and chamber design.
Its a crossflow and will take many off the shelve parts from the twin cam version but this is the pushrod version!!! less headaches, lighter head, simple maintanance no chain or belt and all that goes with the simple A series but much better.

Look where the plugs go for a pushrod!!!

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L18_B110
Posted: 2004/3/22 1:22  Updated: 2004/3/22 1:22
No life (a.k.a. DattoMaster)
Joined: 2002/8/6
From: Brisbane, Australia
Posts: 3792
 Re: green 2-dr sedan with 1.8 liter toyomotor
the 2TG is the twin cam version. This is a 2T/3T. If they had to stick a Toyota motor in it, they could have at least picked a good one...

I've played around with the twin cam verions many years ago, and was pretty disappointed with the results. TRD lumpy top pistons, TRD big lift cams, 44mm phh Solexs, etc etc Produced less power at higher revs than the cheaper to build L18. And ended up breaking a rod. Gutless under 4000rpm & not alot better above it.

Very hard to get good CR with hemi chambers - and when you do, you compromise breathing and combustion efficiency. And you inevitably end up with a relatively heavy piston.

Also very hard to run enough duration with the included valve angle of the hemi design. Not a real problem when you have the torque of a V8, or when you have a supercharger/turbo where you don't want high CR or long valve durations, but not great in a naturally aspirated 4cyl.

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Posted: 2004/3/22 4:34  Updated: 2004/3/22 4:34
No life (a.k.a. DattoMaster)
Joined: 2002/10/28
From: under the Firmament LOL no twiglight effect BS
Posts: 10933
 Re: green 2-dr sedan with 1.8 liter toyomotor
http://www.southernnational.net/Rules/2004FourCylinder.htm

In Puerto Rico the later pushrod version (3tc) is the choice of head for some and the 3tg twin plug head for others. After 78 the valve angles and port mods were inproved for high comp as in the latest hemi by dogge. With the less inclined valves used in the 3tc normal aspiration with high comp is no problem as in the fiat tc engines. The top turbo drag 3tcs can see 800hp and 7-8 seconds with turbo, nitros and alcohol of course.

The link above even shows a weight penalty when using the 3tc of 50lbs and 89mm bore and no other engine maker has that except when going over 2.2ltr.
These things have to race with less capacity than 2.2 engines from other companies, carry more weight and so on.. so they cant be that bad.
As for 2tgs making over 200hps is possible but yes the early hemi head might have probs with high comp. As for the 3tc with pushrods they even run at 13.1 compression and spin to almost 10000 rpm in american speedway.
The 4ag is the grandson of the 3tg.
Personally Ive had over 30 or so all up of 2tgs, 18rgs and all other kinds of Ts of different models and at over (twin cammers) 4000 rpm rocked but I still prefer the 3tcs simplicity.
Strangely it goes to show how little the twin cam version made as the 2tg with 40mm twin solexes (weber type) produced 125hp and the less equipped 3tc twin carb version which made 114hp from factory (with only 2 twin downdraft hitachis and less compression.)
I know which one Id have considering also the twin cam head almost cant be shaved at all except by a specialist for fear of piston valve inteferrence and the oil pressure switch for the chain tensioner cost over 350 australian dollars new and they often broke off if you bumped it with anything.
Considering whats available for the 3tc in the states It would make sense to go the choice he made.

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L18_B110
Posted: 2004/3/22 23:31  Updated: 2004/3/22 23:31
No life (a.k.a. DattoMaster)
Joined: 2002/8/6
From: Brisbane, Australia
Posts: 3792
 Re: green 2-dr sedan with 1.8 liter toyomotor
Puerto Rico drag cars run turbos, and hemis are very vell suited to forced induction as I said in the last post. so it's not related to what I said or this car pictured.

The speedway class you talk about and link is for almost stock engines where they are not allowed to raise the CR or run big lift cams, so that doesn't relate to what I said either. And that weight penalty only applies if you bore the thing out 4mm!

I don't know if they did make those major revisions to the head design of the 3T (I assumed it was just a different bottom end), but if they did it only supports what I said about the 2T's hemi design.