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heres the coil

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b310gx
Posted: 2005/5/20 11:07  Updated: 2005/5/20 11:07
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 Re: for meat_rack
which one of the bosch coils is it,ie a hec715,a mec717,etc.it's just i used a mec717 with an n12 pulsar electronic dizzy in a race engine,& after 6 months the engine lost it's edge.it was because the coil wasn't up to running the dizzy.i put a mec723 into it,& burnouts were back on the menu.i now use a hec715 in my race sunny,with no problems.i think the mec stands for medium energy coil,& the hec should
stand for high energy coil.at $80 for a coil, getting the wrong one is an expensive mistake.

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rb20
Posted: 2005/5/20 16:01  Updated: 2005/5/20 16:01
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 Re: for meat_rack
i have the mec723 so i will be ordering burnouts from the menu please

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b310gx
Posted: 2005/5/21 6:20  Updated: 2005/5/21 6:20
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 Re: for meat_rack
chicken salt or plain salt with those burnouts?

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rb20
Posted: 2005/5/21 6:41  Updated: 2005/5/21 6:41
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 Re: for meat_rack
i just hope they dont turn out to oily

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rb20
Posted: 2005/7/2 14:24  Updated: 2005/7/2 14:24
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 Re: for meat_rack
i installed my ignition today
question
is there ment to be a moduel between the coil and the dizzy
it ran fine for about 5 minuts and then just died so i took the dizzy in to the auto electrician and the told me it is stuffed
and it should have had a moduel

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Posted: 2005/7/3 0:40  Updated: 2005/7/3 0:40
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 Re: for meat_rack
You would normally have a low level trigger that switches the module, its like running your headlights without a relay. sooner or later it will burn out the switch.

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ddgonzal
Posted: 2005/7/3 3:51  Updated: 2005/7/3 3:51
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 Re: for meat_rack
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is there ment to be a moduel between the coil and the dizzy
It totally depends on the brand of module you have. Is it a Pertronix? The Datsun ones do not use anything between module and coil.

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Posted: 2005/7/3 5:27  Updated: 2005/7/3 5:27
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 Re: for meat_rack
Are they made to run on a 12volt coil?
If they have their own ignition module included in that little pickup. To me its a bloody tiny module. How big a spark plug gap can be run by this ignition? and how big a gap was actually run on this now no good ignition?

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phunkdoktaspok
Posted: 2005/7/3 5:39  Updated: 2005/7/3 5:39
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 Re: for meat_rack
If you read www.pertronix.com it states:
Quote:
System is designed for use with most point-type coils, optimal performance achieved when used with our Flame-Thrower 40,000 volt coil.

That tells me it isnt designed to run on a 12volt coil. It can run on a normal points coil with a ballast resistor fitted.

Further down the page it states:
Quote:
Works great in stock point-type distributors as a trigger for multi spark CD ignitions, eliminating the need for expensive aftermarket distributors.

That tells me its only a trigger which is required to send a signal to an external ignition module

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rb20
Posted: 2005/7/3 13:20  Updated: 2005/7/3 13:20
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 Re: for meat_rack
well it looks like its back to points for me till i can work somthing else out

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Posted: 2005/7/3 13:48  Updated: 2005/7/3 13:48
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 Re: for meat_rack
It works great for me but its definately only designed to run with a points style coil or with a resistor. Its not a high energy kit. The fireball 2 is. Although not high energy I have found it heaps better than points response wise and starting wise.

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rb20
Posted: 2005/7/3 13:57  Updated: 2005/7/3 13:57
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 Re: for meat_rack
thats one thing i did notice was the way it started unfortunatly i didnt have it working long enough to notice the responce
i think maby the resistor was missing from the equasion this may have been my problem
ill put it down to a bad learnin experiance

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rb20
Posted: 2005/5/18 13:53  Updated: 2005/5/18 13:53
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 Re: for meat_rack
heres the pic of the coil that came with my dizzy that you asked for

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Meat_rack
Posted: 2005/5/18 13:57  Updated: 2005/5/18 13:57
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 Re: for meat_rack
rb20 you re a champion.. It just what i was after. Im going out to buy one very soon. Wont you need 4 coil packs though?
Thanks.

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rb20
Posted: 2005/5/18 14:07  Updated: 2005/5/18 14:07
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 Re: for meat_rack
i dont know about 4 coils some one els can answer that one i might give it a go this week and find out

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Meat_rack
Posted: 2005/5/18 14:09  Updated: 2005/5/18 14:09
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 Re: for meat_rack
Oh its just im pretty sure that i have seen a setup with 4 seprate coil packs.

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Posted: 2005/5/18 14:12  Updated: 2005/5/18 14:12
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 Re: for meat_rack
Dont need a coil pack. Coil packs are for electronic fuel injected cars which are controlled by the computer and not a dizzy.

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Meat_rack
Posted: 2005/5/18 14:19  Updated: 2005/5/18 14:19
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 Re: for meat_rack
So the dizzy(moded) connects the two wires to the coil. But what connects the coil to 4 spark plug leads?

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rb20
Posted: 2005/5/18 14:21  Updated: 2005/5/18 14:21
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 Re: for meat_rack
thats what i thaught

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rb20
Posted: 2005/5/18 14:26  Updated: 2005/5/18 14:26
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 Re: for meat_rack
the spark goes from the coil through the ignitor through the rotor button on to the dizzy cap to the leads then the spark plugs and then bang

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Posted: 2005/5/18 14:26  Updated: 2005/5/18 14:26
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Well i figured that you have them all linked some how and there is one for each plug

Anyone know how it all connects?

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Posted: 2005/5/18 14:31  Updated: 2005/5/18 14:31
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 Re: for meat_rack
its just setup like a normal dissy. the coil has one lead that goes to the middle of the dissy cap and the module helps it distribute spark to each cylinder. individual coil packs are a different sort of systemwhere a computer controlls a coil ignighter that sends a signal to a coil pack to fire each cylinder. totally different setup.

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Meat_rack
Posted: 2005/5/18 14:34  Updated: 2005/5/18 14:34
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Oh ok i have got the two setups mixed up.. sorry guys

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rb20
Posted: 2005/5/18 14:38  Updated: 2005/5/18 14:38
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 Re: for meat_rack
and the timing is done by the crank angle sensor becouse there is no dissy which is also controled by the computer is this right