im with DVLDAT i have seen it time and time again on this site and it does wear a little thin people saying 15000 tell him hes dreamin ,even if u can do all the work urself to setup a quick 1200 be it a ute sedan or coupe and have a nice finnished product ,apart from the man hours put into these projects witch have to be worth some thing its buying the bits required when u sit down and do ur sums at the end im sure u will find that they are quite cheap , but in saying that , the job have to be done right or it aint worth it , so before we make comments on the value of peoples ,in most cases pride n joy we should take into account the true value of the overall package , and u will find if ur a true 1200 lover u will see where every dollar has been spent ,there is a guy in brisbane i know quite well who has a 1200 ute that owes him atleast 80,000 so kinda makes u think 15,00 is real cheap ,ok i had my bitch