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Makes me a little uneasy to contradict the Tech Wiki information. I would like to hear from others if they have put an A14 mid sump pan on an A15 block.
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DD....Pulled an oilpan from a 1978 B210 (mid sump) and set it on the A15 block. Rotated the crankshaft and did not hear any contact with the oil pan. You advised I would need to knock it with a hammer for proper clearance....
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Do not but will pm him. Thanks.
Posted on: 2015/12/18 0:31
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Hey Tom thanks for the cam information. You have a GX head with your A15 as well along with the 3.9 diff? Cant keep up with everyone's A series rebuild projects. Hope you like my lengthy thread here. Lots of good information. Really anxious to get on with my project, but now with travel coming up and the holidays it may be a few more weeks. Have most of my parts but need to go back to the salvage yard for an oil pan(s). I am looking at notching my oil pan vs cutting into the structural crossmember. Kurt says the B210 pan is better suited for that since its a mid sump (less invasive) but according to DD, I need to put a hammer to it to clear the crankshaft. I will let my fabrication guy determine what is best. Cool looking road you got out west in California. I am jealous!! Here in Texas we have the hill country which is south west of Fort Worth, but no comparison. Catch you later.
DD thanks for the pics. That is quite an oil pan on the fwd car. D was saying it is easy to cut the extended sump and weld back a wing. As I previously mentioned, will let the guy doing my work figure out the best solution. I can get datsun parts fairly cheap from this salvage yard so will keep accumulating whatever parts may come into use.
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Ok. I recall seeing a datsun fwd car in this same salvage yard. It did have the A14 engine in it but dont recall the specific model. When I make it back out there, will check out the oil pan and see if its better than the rwd b210 car. Or may just end up getting both.
Posted on: 2015/12/17 19:18
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I have a 3.9. So a lesser cam then for my application. Do I have the 81 camshaft grinded or purchase a new one?
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D...what do you mean about a winged section?? Do you have any pictures?
The oil pan in the B210 car is sitting in the pic-and-pull salvage yard which may be difficult to do all that. It may be easier to just get the whole engine pulled which the owner will do that for $100 and drops it in my truck with his front end loader. The A14 motor is the 80HP version with a H72 head, would the camshaft work well with my GX head or do I just go with the Iskenderian cam? Want to determine if its worth just getting the whole motor and take parts off of it for my A15 rebuild.
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Thaifrog looks like a simple transmission mount to fabricate. Will show my fabrication guy this image. I have the original transmission mount but will probably need to get a new one to go along with this setup.
DD and others...... Ok back to asking more questions..... another individual that is doing this conversion advised that the B210 oil pan is a better pan to use if the engine will remain forward which requires notching the pan so that it clears the MG crossmember, which is what I plan to do. BTW...nice explanation on the oil pans for the A series engine in Tech Wiki (just like everything else). Since the B210 is a mid sump it would be better to use in this particular situation because the A15 sump oil capacity is towards the front. What is surprising to me is that the A15 front sump oil pan has a capacity of 2.8 liters whereas the A14 mid sump oil pan capacity is 3.2 liter. Less oil for a larger engine displacement?? Please explain. This is ideal since notching the oil pan may reduce some oil capacity but it looks like we have .4 liters of oil that we can work with. And as explained in Tech Wiki, I need to grab the dipstick and pickup tube as well. Anything else that I need to know about? And since the A14 engine that I will be pulling the pan from is still in the vehicle, will I be able to access all the bolts to remove the pan? Thanks for responses.
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Thaifrog, your engine is sitting way back! You dont even need to cut the steering rack crossmember. Did you have to cut a larger opening in the tunnel to make clearance for the shifter? Also, on the midget the yoke and u-joint assembly hit the tunnel if its too far back. You dont have that problem on your Austin Healey? Tell me what happened to your 60L.
Posted on: 2015/11/30 4:05
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Thanks for the pics Smellofbikes. I dont recall any MG owners that had to do the remote filter setup. I recall one owner had to set the engine to the left slightly in order to clear the oil filter. Thaifrog's toyota filter may solve that problem. Wont know till I get my guy to set it in there and determine what will work best. It looks like the Spitfire's framing is different from the midget. I wish I had all that access! Jealous of the spitfire bonnet.
Posted on: 2015/11/30 3:51
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