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Will get a picture or two of some of the Mazda engined 1200's around, and put that up there, as well as some facts and figures.

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Translation : What type of Mazda engine do these guys use.

Arno, apparently most of them use the ones with the golden tappet cover, which is a 2L 16V unit. It is also in some cases bored and/or stroked to 2.3L. I've also heard of the 2.2L 16V Mazda units being used.

On one of your earlier questions, it would be best to use the Toyota 21R gearbox with a conversion bellhousing, which all up goes for about R3000 for the CA18/SR20. That's much easier than to find a decent Nissan gearbox, which is still in good nick. The Nissan unit is also more than likely going to cost you twice as much as the Toyota stuff.

PS. Try not to post questions in Afrikaans, as some members may find it offensive. It's ok to do in the PM's. I've been made out to be a terrorist in other non Datsun1200 forums because of this...

Mmmm, I just woke up, and it seems I still can't get the quote thing right, I actually meant what's up with this?
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Dude, what's up with that?

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Mmmm, the fastest 1400 UTE is running a turbs Mazda piston engine. It's that blue one of Louis Lima, and it does consistent sub 9 second runs. However, the rest of the spots(2nd,3rd,4th etc...) are taken up mostly by turboe'd 4A-GZE's and some other turboe'd Mazda pistons. The odd turbs rotary shows up every now and then

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But at least it's Japanese...

Hi Arno,
also from ZA here, don't use SA as the guys on the southern side of down under already uses that...

While I know that you are more inclined to go for the 2.0 option, I can only tell you what I've experienced. I'll try to make it as unbiased as possible.

My bro in law built a 1200 sedan(which is basically the same thing as the ute from the front doors forward), with a CA18DET. There is no space left in the engine compartment for much else than the engine and some pipes, and it seems to be far more work to do than say the 4A-GZE.

It involves changes to the transmission tunnel, cross member and engine mounts. The parts for these combinations(say the CA18DET) are also less plentiful, and most definitely far more expensive when you can get them.

To build a sleeper with the CA18DET/SR20DET, I'd say would be slightly more difficult, than say the 4A-GZE. This is mostly due to bulkyness. However as some excellent examples on this site has proven, the bigger engines can be hidden quite cunningly.

On the circuit I see a lot of 4A-GZE/GE's packing up, and not many CA18 and SR20's. But that may simply be because there is an overwhelmingly larger number of the Toyota engines installed.

We don't have the same problems with getting the large engines registered and road worthied, as our counterparts on the other side of the world. The brakes has to work, the steering must turn, there must be no oil leaks, and suspension components shouldn't have play. That's it, other than that you can probably fit two 5.7l V8's to a 1200 and they wouldn't mind.

I've seen a Mini fitted with a V8 running and roadwortied before...

It basically boils down to how purist you want to be, and what you want to achieve in the end.

My personal preference for the 1200/1400 sedan/ute is the Toyota 4A engine range. But if I ever build another car, I might decide to use a larger body with a SR/CA.

Cheers
Francois

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You'd probably be able to import one of these, but most guys making BIG power over here in ZA uses Dicktator. Have a look at Linky dinky Dicktator.

Mmmm, I have some stuff to add. They started selling the UTE's here in good ol' Sefh Efrika a while ago, and were exhibiting them at a local mall once. After looking at the inside which looked and smelled like Tupperware in a microwave, the bonnet of another was open, and I took a walk over to see what's under the hood...

Once I found the, already rusted in places, engine block, topped by an already oxidized aluminum head. All of which was hidden under a bunch of rubber pipes and plastic, which looked like they were polished with the cheapest shoe polish you can find, I noticed that there was no radiator. Well there was one actually, but it was so small and thin that they might as well have left it out. I'm sure a 1200's heater core is bigger...

Sensing someone standing next to me, and thinking it was my wife, I commented "dis nou 'n stuk kak die". Translated it means, "this is a piece of sh!t", so when I looked up the sales man that was on duty, he was wearing a Proton cap and shirt, had already started walking away shaking his head.

I guess he got many similar comments that day, and didn't feel like defending it.

It reminds me of the Dacia UTE's they sold over here for a while. Just the other day they found about 50 of them still standing in a storage facility. They were promptly removed and destroyed... Linky dinky

My personal opinion would be to drop the standard fan anyway, and replace it by a pull-type thermo. The largest you can find, that would fit on the radiator. You simply install a piece of s/s pipe somewhere in the radiator piping, and weld a boss in there that'll take a thermoswitch. That's if no provision is made on the radiator itself.

Non of that fan whine anymore, and you gain probably upwards of 3kw, and faster revving, and fuel economy and extended water pump life... But it's more about the 3kw than anything else...

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Hey cool, even more reason not to replace it immediately. It won't last for ever though, apparently the 1400 UTE has an even stronger unit, will find out a bit more about them.

HNY to you also, still need to get around to send that GX badge from the grill as well