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#1 For those that use the 1200 coupe /sedan for track, what cars is it comparable to? Handling wise.
5zturbo Posted on: 2012/1/3 19:18
Looking for information on how well can these cars made to handle with mild to moderate suspension upgrades.

And if you have driven other cars that's track oriented how does it compare?

Specs on both or either or just feedback in general.

Side note. Anyone own or driven an s30(datsun z)? How does this compare to it?

Looking for a fun mountain twisty car and perhaps multi function car. And the weight of these cars is a really big plus.


#2 Making a ford 8.8 bolt on? Possible without going with custom frame?
5zturbo Posted on: 2012/1/2 23:19
Hi guys,

Going for a more stronger set up and since the r31 aren't available here in the USA the ford 8.8 is my best possible option. LSD and with disk on both end as well as cheap and easy to find makes this a top option instead of the IRS swap I was considering.
Plus launching on slicks might be in the future.

Anyways how do you guys mount these live axle?

I don't want a full drag set up with box tubing subframe.

So I was thinking narrowed with shorter axle.

And then all mounting from the stock rear end are transferred/made custom to the 8.8

So it would be essentialy a bolt on rear end without modification to the datsun body.

Is this how narrow rear end are adapted?
Or is there something else?

I rear the tech wiki but nothing is really covered on this so I assumed it simple the way I stated it.

Inputs?

Thanks


#3 Re: Where are all the pics of the LSD /IRS? Looked at the tech already.
5zturbo Posted on: 2011/12/28 22:59
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ddgonzal wrote:
They are here:

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I saw those thanks.

That's where I looked and the pics there wouldn't show for me.(the ones in the original post)

Anyways found the link to his gallery.

http://datsun510.com/photopost/showph ... -it-on-the-car-4&cat=3491


#4 Where are all the pics of the LSD /IRS? Looked at the tech already.
5zturbo Posted on: 2011/12/28 19:31
Been looking for a cheaper option for a LSD rear end. And so I'm looking to swapping a 510 IRS(with subby r160 or maybe even a 240z/260z/280z IRS(r200 LSD )

But reading the tech I followed the link to a thread but the poster of that thread deleted the link to the pics so it won't show. Anyone else have them saved? Looking to see what needs modified and how the spring was set up with shocks.

Thanks


#5 Re: any aftermarket t3 or t4 manifold that works with ca18det in a 1200?
5zturbo Posted on: 2011/12/27 23:42
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Tgg1200 wrote:
Hi all, how are people getting 300hp out of a t28 on a ca. Is there some thing I have over looked. I just put a new 2871r on mine with injectors fuel pump and tuned by a reputable tuner and even running 18 psi only managed 205hpaw. So I think you will need a bigger turbo then a t28, so just don't want you to have the same unrealistic expectations I had of a small frame turbo. If you want 300hp go bigger.


Did you really only get 205whp? That seems extremely low for that turbo at 18psi.

Are you sure you have all the supporting mods and not have a bottleneck of some sort?

If so then perhaps it's time to switch tuner.

Here's a dyno page from nico that has peoples numbers and mods. Some guy is on there with t25 making 190whp at 15psi iirc.
http://forums.nicoclub.com/dyno-sheets-t136619.html

Perhaps your missing something.


#6 Re: any aftermarket t3 or t4 manifold that works with ca18det in a 1200?
5zturbo Posted on: 2011/12/20 7:27
Quote:

steve1991 wrote:
People get 300hp with a t28 with standard manifold. Just get a t28 do your Injectors a decent tune and bump the boost up to 15 pound.


I'm assuming that's crank? Not wheel hp?

The reason I ask is because from my search a lot of peoplesay yes you can get t28 to get 300whp but that's on it's max output. Around 18+ psi not 15.(I'm getting my info from nicoclub and 240sx)

I don't feel like driving a turbo that's a ticking timebomb then I'll end up buying another then another when I can get one that maybe works at it's 90% range vs 100% it will be cheaper on the long run.

I'm thinking maybe a custom mount might be the way to go, and bottom mount is sounding good to.

I mean if you know of one that's able to get 300whp with t28 please sen me his link so I can copy it. (this is ofcourse with stock engine) (if engine has work done besides head gasket then it's a different ball game)


#7 Re: any aftermarket t3 or t4 manifold that works with ca18det in a 1200?
5zturbo Posted on: 2011/12/19 7:47
Quote:

steve1991 wrote:
I'm running a gt2535 and its the biggest turbo u can run on the standard manifold. I can handle up to 20 psi and it's ball bearing.


how much hp are you able to get out of that?

Quote:

DON_1200 wrote:
Depends how serious your build is?!!

I went with a 6boost manifold, and as far as i know they are the best around, its top mount with external waste gate (turbosmart 48mm pro gate from memory) and a garret GT3076r turbo. whole lot cost me about 3400 delivered from kyle at 6boost.


Couldnt tell you how it run as the car is not finished yet, but getting close.


Not as serious as you lol at a mere 300whp I dont plan to spend more than 1k on a turbo and manifold maybe 1200 max with turbo/manifold/wastegate. ideally i want to be bellow 1k. which is why i was looking at ebay tubular and set it up with a sc50 or something. While I like the idea of ball bearing ill stick to journal just incase i need to rebuild it in the future.
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ddgonzal wrote:
Since the goal is 15 psi, just use the stock manifold. It's good for 20 psi turbos.


well I was hoping to get a t3 or MAYBE t4(but maybe to big for ca) for more flow. I dont think hybrid fits into stock manifold.

and goal isnt 15psi goal is 300whp. but i prefer to stay around that boost vs 20+psi. If theres a turbo capable of that power that bolts to stock manifold please let me know. I search around and majority jump to gt28 or gt30.


#8 any aftermarket t3 or t4 manifold that works with ca18det in a 1200?
5zturbo Posted on: 2011/12/18 7:49
im currently collecting parts for my swap. and I see a few people with aftermarket turbo but i did not find any info on what exhuast manifold they use.

I can make one if needed but would rather buy one premade and save myself the headache seeing that a flange itself is like 60 plus piping its a good 80-90.

will the ebay top mount fit in a 1200? i want to run a t3 sc50. or a gt30.
so external wastegate.

anyone know of one?
im trying to keep the cost of turbo down to like less than 800 and power goal of 300-325whp. and prefered 15psi.

thanks


#9 Re: How do you guys get traction with high hp? And awd anyone?
5zturbo Posted on: 2011/11/11 9:12
Quote:

unfamilia wrote:
I'd say you may loose some back seat room with the awd set up too and mounting points etc.

These guys race ca18 in rwd- see how they set it up . Why reinvent the wheel. They seem to be able to hook up with Tyres. Unless you want to mini tub it internally


2 grand is a bit steep for a rear end set up like the r31 dont you think?
Ive search all other the site and net, and found no cheaper alternative. Found a few guys converting to IRS and thats most likely my best and cheapest option.

unless anyone else has a good option that can handle 350-400whp and launch on slicks (just incase I try them someday lol) ofcourse must be lsd


#10 Re: How do you guys get traction with high hp? And awd anyone?
5zturbo Posted on: 2011/11/11 5:04
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Rallytwit wrote:
and I think you dont get it cuz its not for you. think of it this way A LOT of people dont get wtf we mod cars either in their eyes "whats the point?". different things work for different people.
btw im no way encouraging street racing, but i do my fare share of back road racing. and I do my fare share of mountain runs on motorcycle. Im sure people also dont get that to lo
l......................As someone who used to road race motorcycles I completely get riding quickly but what I don't get is trying to go reeeeally fast on the street, there is so much less traction available on public roads that the corner speeds are slower than yer basic warm up lap.................this is a particularly acute problem for me as my road racing background is in 2-stroke GP bikes, mostly 125cc but the occasional ride on TZ250's...........................if you haven't been on track with your bike, you must try it at least once, it's just an absolute scream.......you can slide the bike around like a hoon and not have to worry about what junk is on the tarmac...................with all that said I have threatened to put Super Moto Wheels on my KTM 300 (it's plated / street legal)............I'm also considering a new Beta 520 dual sport (you can slide a bike around on dual sport tires in a fairly alarming manner if you choose)

OK back on topic:
I can't remember exactly on shock settings for drags but I would imagine if you set the compression on the rear shocks a little softer and the rebound a little harder then the optimal road race set up that would help the rear bite. Sway bars selection shouldn't affect the straight line acceleration (anyone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong). As for ride height you could run the rear a touch lower / biased toward the rear, obviously it would have a little more understeer than the optimal road race set up. If you have a test n tune night at your local drags you could use that to dial in as much grip as possible............then maybe take it to a local autocross to make sure it still handles acceptable although once you round the first freeway on ramp you'll likely know . Grippy tires and a limited slip diff would also be a must as mentioned.

Tom


well in that case cant really explain it either lol but are we talking about the same thing? back road racing for me usually means a set up race. example a challenge or what not. Usually just another way to show off your machine even though you know its fast.

and ya I actually plan to track my bike this coming season. its on my to do list, and I wish I can track my car but the closest drag track is 2 hours away and only open to public on test n tune Wednesday. which means getting maybe 2-3 runs after spending 5 hours overall. alot of waiting in traffic to get there and waiting cuz every import likes to go lol

ya looks like thats the way im leaning, did some major read and search of possible mid engine rwd set up but looks like I cant fit the engine back there without loosing the back seat... so back to square one. :(



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