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Re: B10 ,b110, 1000 serie's 1200 serie's
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The brake's also had brake fade in the early 1000 because of the non use of the tandem set up or brake booster

beside's was not fitted with booster or twin tadem by pass method because of not discovering the correct delivery system due to the patiet law's on other car's truck's of yester year

This is silly.
Brake fade has NOTHING to do with the presence, or otherwise of a tanden master cylinder or booster. If you try hard enough you can get brake fade in tandem cylinder, vacuum boosted, disc brake systems.

Twin tandem by-pass method? What the hell is that?
Not discovering the correct delivery system? Delivery of what?
What patent laws of what 'yesteryear' cars & trucks are you refering to?
Where are you geting this rubbish from?
Some detail here would be very helpfull.

Are you actually a trained mechanic?

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Re: B10 ,b110, 1000 serie's 1200 serie's
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I'd hate to see someone articulate a wheelchair.

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Re: B10 ,b110, 1000 serie's 1200 serie's
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The brake's also had brake fade in the early 1000 because of the non use of the tandem set up (MEANING DUAL CYCLINDER) or NO brake booster
BECAUSE OF BEING TIGHT FISTED IN THE MANURFACTURE OF THE EARLY B10,s

beside's was not fitted with booster or twin tadem by pass method because of not discovering the correct delivery system(no brake booster avaliable yet) due to the patiet law's(MOST MANIFACTURE'S HAD A PATIENT ON EVERYTHING (YOU WANT TRUE GAUGE READING'DS YOU GOT IT) on other car's truck's of yester year WAS NOT ALOWED TO COPY OTHER COMPANY'S DESIGN (girlock bosch for example)

This is silly.YEH IT IS CONSIDERING YOU SHOULD KNOW THE ANSWER'S
INSTEAD OF BREAKIN IT DOWN THAT FAR MOST CAR NUTTER'S HAVE KNOW IDEA OF THE POST ALLTOGETHR GETTING TO HIGH TECK
IF YOU LIKE GO HARD
you'd be left in a libary disputing the difference's
Brake fade has NOTHING to do with the presence,
(HAS EVERY THING TO DO WITH IT OVER HEATING AND UNDER ADJUSTED) LACK OF COOLING OF BRAKE DRUM (TRY AGAIN )
or otherwise of a tanden master cylinder or booster. YOUR B10 GOT TWIN CYCLINDER (MASTER CYCLINDER) AND BOOSTER FROM FACTORY FLOOR DON'T THINK SO
If you try hard enough you can get brake fade in tandem cylinder, AND NEVER OVER HEAT IN NORMAL OPERATING CIRCUMSTANCE'S vacuum boosted,MADE IT EASYEIR AND MORE RELIABLE TO EVERY EXTREME USED
disc brake systems.

Twin tandem by-pass method? What the hell is that?
WHAT YOU HAVE TWO LINE'S ONE GOING FROM MASTER CYCLINDER TO OPERATE EACH FRONT WHEEL (BULLSHIT THIS IS WERE THE BY PASS WAS USED
ONE FEEDER TO MOVE BOTH SLAVE CYCLINDER ONE CROSS LINK TO OPERATE OTHER'
NON EXSITENT CYCLINDER MY CAR HAS TWO WHEEL CYCLINDER'S IN THE FRONT
MEANING YOU SAY FOUR LINE'S ALTOGETHER TO FRONT WHEEL'S
YOU NEED A REFRESHA COUSRE IN SCEITIFIC FLUID LAW'S AND PRACTICE IT
Not discovering the correct delivery system? Delivery of what? DELIVERING A MISSILE WHAT YOU THINK
What patent laws of what 'yesteryear' cars & trucks are you refering to?
Where are you geting this rubbish from?


YOU NOT READ TO WELL
INFO FROM ALL YOU SPECAILIST'S
FUNNY THAT
Some detail here would be very helpfull.
NOT WRONG LIKE I STATED IF I'D LISTEN TO ALL THE BULL #### I WAS TOLD BY SPECIALIST AND(PRETEND KNOW ALL'S
MY B10 WOULD BE ON THE (SHIT HEAP)


AND in six week's of owning my prime example of a datto's freek"s joy or so called worship of the wee girl totaly screwed it's stlying and design
I'VE TAKEN HER BACK TO FACTORY SPEC'S AND STARTED AGAIN
WITH CORRECT MOD'S TRIED AND TRUE METHOD'S


JOIN TO LEARN MORE ABOUT B10'S
LOOK LIKE JIONED WRONG CROWD INSTEAD OF YOU PEOPLE POINTING IN RIGHT DIRRECTION YOU JUST ATTACK DISMISS and assinate if you think some one is wrong



Are you actually a trained mechanic?

LOOK'S LIKE YOU'D BE GUESSING AS YOU had no clue on the difference's as i asked in eariler post's
DIFFERENTAL'S ARE THE SAME AXLE'S SAME LENGTH ....YEH RIGHT
OR MAYBE YOU ARE IN A COUNTRY WITH OWN SPEC"S BOOK'S WHICH NO ONE ELSE HAS EVERY SEEN....OR HEARD OF

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Re: B10 ,b110, 1000 serie's 1200 serie's
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ever completely rebiuid the leaf spring"S
NOT SHOP BOUGHT
maybe you can us you a spanner to refit AS COMPLETE UNIT
HAVE FUN FITTING THEM IN ALL THE BREAK DOWN PEICE'S

HOW YOU RESET THE SPRING'S
(UPGRADE TO SURPORT HARDER DRIVEN)
BET YOU BUY NEW ONE'S OR
SEND IT TO A WORK SHOP
ME I REBUILD THEM COMPLETELY
RESET RECLAMP AFTER COMPLETE BREAK DOWN
SEPERATE WHOLE THING SO IT'S IN 8 PIECE'S
DO WHAT HAS TO BE DONE AND THEN REFIT (WITH COMPRESION TOOL'S )
OHHH
AND USE A SPANNER AFTER THIS HAS BEEN DONE


OR YOU USE THET THIRD EYE TO SEPERATE THE SPRING APPERATUS
AND A SPANNER TO REBUILD THEM

FUNNY WORD POGO STICK
PROVEN TO BE BETTER DESIGN
WORLD WIDE

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The daam thing

BEING TRING TO BUT NO TRADE'S PEOPLE OUT HERE TO DRIVE HER CORRCTLY
(INFO ALL SCREWED UP)
DUE TO KNOW ALL'S
KNOW F......K ALL'S

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Re: B10 ,b110, 1000 serie's 1200 serie's
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Firstly I dont know why these pics are on my computer but here they are;

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It aint hard to get that spring out bro.
You say eight pieces but I only count six. Maybe you dont have a 1000.
It aint hard to disassemble the spring.
The spring pictured by itself has had a leaf flipped by someone at some point in time.
No hi-teck tools required to strip it.
Oxy to heat the tabs and fold them back. (can still be done a couple of times cold if thats your style of work)
2 g-clamps if you scared, but the datsun spring just sit inside each other - no clamping required. And you need a couple of spanners to undo the centre bolt.
Not too difficult.
I have assembled leafsprings before that need to be compressed to get together.
I have used a vice, or 2 g-clamps and by far the easiest method is to use a length of threaded rod with 2 nuts and simply tighten it through the centre where the bolt goes.
Once tight, put in vice, undo rod and refit bolt. No biggy.

Its not really a concern for me, more just curiosity. You say there are no trades men with knowledge but yet you are a mechanic and have done and know how to do it all. Why dont you yourself do these things. I would stop listening to those that only read text books and actually just do the #### yourself. If something aint right, fix it, modify it, make it work or fit something that will do the correct job. Simple.

Just drive the daam thing.

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Re: B10 ,b110, 1000 serie's 1200 serie's
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..school holidays aren't still on, are they?

I was going to ignore this thread, but it annoyed me too much.

I don't know how you've lasted 49 posts.

Many of here, have pulled apart and rebuilt EVERY bit of our Datsuns ourselves. We aren't like a lot of mechanics who spend 90% of the time doing basic service like replacing fuel filters, oil filters and brake pads. Anyone that's rebuilt a car, knows its 3 times harder than assembling it from new.

There are people on this site that do 'know it all'.. I have to say that you are not one of them. Everything you've posted could have come from owning 3 or 4 issues of Wheels magazines from between 1969 and 1971.

Pull your head in.

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This just gets sillier by the minute.

Brake fade has got everything to do with the brake itself & nothing to do with the master cylinder or a booster.
The tandem cylinder is intended to be a safety item, not a brake performance item & an inline brake pressure bias valve would work just as well in a single circuit system.
A booster is used to reduce pedal pressure, not to overcome brake fade.
The Datsun 1000 & 1200 drum brakes are more than good enough when in good serviceable gondition & used as the manufacturer originally intended. They were low in cost & perfectly adequate for the intended task, & if you were a real mechanic, you would know that.

As for makers not being allowed to copy others designs, you covered it yourself.
Many of these systems were vendor supplied & sometimes vendor designed, or designed in conjunction with the carmaker
The VENDORS owned many of these patents & were in the business of SELLING their products to any carmaker that would buy their systems or component, not using patents to prevent their use.

Thats why we see Hitachi carbs, & Mitsubishi Electric or Hitachi electrical components in these cars, & if you were a real mechanic, you would know that too.

Now I have been a mechanic for only forty years, & a Datsun 1000 owner & enthusiast for the last twenty six years, so there is still lots for me to learn, but you still have me bushed with the 'twin tandem by-pass' stuff.
For a start, there is only one tandem [or dual circuit] cylinder [not twin, or two of them] & the whole thing is generally refered to as a 'Dual circuit' system.
I'm just wondering what is actually 'by-passed' in this system of yours. I have studied the factory original dual circuit brake system on my 1000 coupe & in 1200 models, & i'm blowed if I can find anything that was by-passed. I had thought that drum brakes used 'wheel cylinders' while the term 'slave cylinder' was normally reserved for things like clutch actuating cylinders in hydraulic clutch applications.
If you were a real mechanic, i'm sure that you would have known all of this.

Anyway, most of us are ever ready to help, but if you keep up this rubbish, then the enthusiasm to help dies real fast.

I wish you good fortune in your project & I know we would all dearly love to see a picture of it.

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SO HAVIN NO HEAT SINK'S ON THE DRUM'S DID NOT CAUSE BREAK FADE
CRAPP
(PISS POOR MATERAIL USED THE FIBRE /ASPTOS/ STEEL FLAKE'S)WAS AND IS THE BLAME
SINCEI HAVE REPLACED AND UP GRADED TO FLASHER SAFE AND EASIER TO WORK ON (REPLACE)
THIS HAS BEEN PROVEN ON AND AT BATHURST EVERY YEAR REGARDLESS OFF MAKE NOTICABLE MORE IN DRUM BRAKE CAR'S
yeh yeh yeh

want a photo of my B 10 1000 ute
get someone in perth to take photo
I WILL ALLOW IT ON THE NET



MY DIGITAL CAMERA WAS LIFTED BY A SO CALLED MACHINIC (WAS IN THE CAR BEFORE IT WAS TOWED
NOT THERE AFTER IT WAS DROPPED OF HERE
AFTER PUT A WEE BIT OF KNOWLEDGE FROM THIS SIGHT INTO PRACTICE



MY UNIT IS THAT SLICK SWEET AND NEAT IT SHOULD BE IN THE ROLLER SECTION OF YOUR SO CALLED WHEEL'S MAG


WHEEL'S MAG WAS AND ARE NOT DETAILED ENOUGH FOR ANY HALF WITTED MECHANIC



LOVE HOW YOU DISPUTE 30 YEAR'S OF GREGORY MANAUL'S
AND DISSMISS IT AS CRAP (NON FACT)
{EDITION 87}
WHICH HAS NOTICABLE SCREW UP'S I'VE SEEN


ONLY MANAUL PRODUCED BY GREG'S FOR THE B 10 1000 B110 B120 VECHICLE'S

YOU DISPUTED NO SUCH THING AS B 10 UTE LOOK AGAIN WITH YOUR EYE'S NOT YOUR MOUTH TRY SITE (DATNET.ORG)
READ THE BROCHURE WELL AND THEN TELL ME AGAIN ABOUT THE GHOST CAR (B 10)UTE DON'T EXIST



I HAVE ONE
SEEN FOUR OTHER'S
ALL 67 GRILL MARKED AS B 10
WITH A10 ENGINE
I THINK IT WAS A CAR ALL OF IT'S OWN STATUR AND RIGHT I THINK IT WAS STATED

Posted on: 2006/3/13 0:14
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WHICH HEAD
YOU SEEM TO PULL ALL POST'S TO BIT'S (MINE)
SHOT HOLE'S IN THEM WITHOUT THE CORRECT ANSWER'S
YOU 'D HAVE TWO FOR SHORE YOU DON'T GET THAT STUPID PULLIN ONE


HARDER
HARDER IS FIXEN A SO CALLED MECHANIC'S F......K UP'S OVER PAST TEN YEAR'S
SO CALLED DOIN IT BY THE BOOK
NOT

YOU HAVE NO IDEA ABOUT HARDER




TYPICAL EASTERN STATER SCHOOL HOLIDAY'S

YOU MITE LET YOUR KID'Z DRIVE YOUR 36 YEAR OLD CAR AND BREAK THE LAW
I CHOOSE NOT TO
SCHOOL KID KNOW'S PROBLY MORE THAN YOU
BEING AS KIDZ ARE ON THE NET MORE
MORE BROCHURE'S PALMPHET''S GUESTAMENT'S

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..school holidays aren't still on, are they?

I don't know how you've lasted 49(47) posts.

Many of here, have pulled apart and rebuilt EVERY bit of our Datsuns ourselves. We aren't like a lot of mechanics who spend 90% of the time doing basic service like replacing fuel filters, oil filters and brake pads. Anyone that's rebuilt a car, knows its 3 times harder than assembling it from new.

There are people on this site that do 'know it all'.. I have to say that you are not one of them. TRY ME I'LL BLOW YOU AWAY WITH KNOWLEDGE Everything you've posted could(BUT DID NOT) have come from owning 3 or 4 issues of Wheels magazines from between 1969 and 1971.

Pull your head in.
NICE
ASKED FOR SPECK'STO FIX A DATSUN GOT MOUTH FULL OF CRAPP ( INSTEAD)
LIKE THE DIFFRENCE BETWEEN SPRING HANGER BUSH AND SPRING EYE BUSH
YOU MOB HAD NO CLUE





I ALONE FOUND THE TOP BUSH WAS LONGER AND SLIGHTLY THINER THAN THE SPRING EYE SO BOUGHT EXTRA NOLATHAN BUSHE'S TO FIX THIS MANIFACTURE SCREW UP (NOT DATSUN'S FAULT AFTER MARKET BUSH SELLER'S FAULT.....
HOW I'M DOIN PROFESSOR
THE BUSH'S BEING SHORTER AND THICKER IN THE SPRING
NOT NOTICABLE BY WEARIN SCHOOL CLOTHE'S
LAST MECHANIC DID NOT DO THIS SO THINK OF THE DAMAGE IT CAUSED TO THE HANGER'S TOP SIDE

STILL THINK I HAVE KNOW IDEA
COOL IT'S YOUR RIGHT

HAD REGULATOR PROBLEM'S
REMOVED IT AND PUT IN PALCE
YOU THE GUN YOU WORK IT OUT

STILL CHARGING AT 35 AMP'S (RUN'S ALL ELETRIC'S MUCH BETTER
NO PISS YELLOW HEAD LIGHT'S



COME ON MR GUN TELL ME HOW I DID IT
(AND YOU AINT SURPOSE TO DO THAT)
AND THAT CAN NOT WORK AINT AN OPTION IN THE ANSWER
GO ON YOU TELL THE REST YOU KNOW
OR
DO YOU NOT HAVE THE GRAVITY TO APPLIE THE KNOWLEDGE.....
HAVE FUN NUTTING THIS ONE OUT

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