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Welding Diff
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Lol, yes welding the diff. i have few questions about it. i dont knnow much about diffs so i was wondering if someone could show me some pictures of were you weld and that? would it be good as a daily driver? and no im not welding my diff (for the moment haha)

Posted on: 2007/6/6 11:27
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My Z-20s powered 1200, The Chickenhawk, had a welded diff. I'm also about to install a welded 4.11 in the back of George, 1300 cc A-12 with a draw through turbo. What I do is chuck the whole third member in a vice and go to town on the spider gears (the four small gears you can see inside the cast iron carrier to which the ring gear [crown wheel?] is attached). I weld the spider gears together where I can and weld them to the carrier where I can. I do it on both sides of the carrier.
As for daily driver use, I drove the Chickenhawk daily for a few years with the welded diff. Yes, it made slow turns more difficult. Yes, it made tight turns more difficult. Yes, it made the inner tire scrub on all turns. Yes, it did all of the things that everyone will complain about when telliing you not to do it. But it wasn't so bad that it offset the benefit of traction at both wheels, in my opinion. But to answer your question: "Good" as a daily driver, probably not. "Acceptable" as a daily driver, yes.

Posted on: 2007/6/6 13:57
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I have to disagree, I put one in my old 1200 ute, it had all the bad points dimlight lists plus you can forget about reverse parking, and as for driving in the rain, there are some genuine safety issues.

After a week of driving it like that I started walking to the shops rather than take the ute, thats how good I thought it was as a daily driver.

But plenty of members drive em everyday like that, they must be masochists.

Posted on: 2007/6/6 21:38
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I had a welded diff in my 1600 when i had it.. and i would prob never go another one again!! they make a racket when turning, they wear the f_ck outa ur tyres ( front and back ) Are VERY dangerous in the wet.. and as sidedraught said u can forget easy parking!!

I personally would save the cash for a LSD
BUUUUT...if u are determind ta do it ill see if i can find my pics.. its not hard

Wardy

Posted on: 2007/6/6 21:53
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Im going for two diff centres on my ute a locker and standard to start with. As a locker or LSD is like American Express Card (dont leave home with-out it) but for sunday driving and parking the standard is ready to go.
Im going to rap this post with there is somthing for eveyone a daily driver is BEST with a std or LSD and a cruiser that comes out once a week to rip the roads and blow a few cars away the locker wont dissapoint.

Posted on: 2007/6/6 22:34
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lockers are ONLY good for track or rally where the unloaded wheel in a corner basically is so unloaded that its almost offthe ground or the car is straightening up under power. You never have this situation on the street and you would be stupid to even contemplate a locker for the street.
Save ur money for an LSD, and let your datsun live...not be wrapped around a tree...

Posted on: 2007/6/7 2:25
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Only a total goose would fit a locked diff to a daily driver,all the reasons have been covered by the other guys,they are just to dangerous.The onty place for a locker is on the track and even then they take quite a long time to get used to,once you do they are superior to an open,but require a differant style of driving.An example of this is a young guy who's car we prepare a couple of weeks ago ran at an event in Queensland (super Sprints)with a locked diff we prepared and was consistantly half to three quarters of a second slower per lap than previous,on the other hand a second driver who has had vastly more experiance with locked diffs over the years in a variety of vehicles was consistantly a full second quicker than his previous best in the same car (it was a dual entry)Result:driver B 1.5 seconds faster than driver A.Moral of the story,don't be a dill and make yourself COP BAIT but if you are going to compete on the circuit be patient and listen to those with on track experiance to help you learn.Sorry if i sound like a nag,but i don't like to see Datto's wrapped around poles and trees or getting busted

Posted on: 2007/6/7 3:10
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so i'll be in the total goose pile then.....im cool with that

i drove my car as a daily from the word go with a locker.....cant say they are that hard to get used to
and id actually dissagree with the more dangerous in the wet statement, at least you know the locker will kick unlike an open diff that might sometimes and might not others
ive got an open centre in my r31 diff and cant wait to have an LSD or mini spool in there

and also about the lack of lifting the inside wheel around corners on the street, believe it took all of one drive to do that after putting the r31 diff in, and it did it a fair few times on the GOR cruise

yes im a fan of a locker, no my car has never met any trees

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there may be many downsides but its all worth it when you pull into a crowded servo and see the looks on peoples faces

Posted on: 2007/6/7 6:28
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Hmmmm, I have owned several daily drivers with locked diffs. Never really had an issue. Although Mum complained that the cars wanted to go straight when she let go of the wheel coming out of roundabouts. . .

Good fun, and useful.

But like solid engine mounts, not for everyone.

My current daily (KB10) is begging for a locked diff, but I don't have a ready supply of axles. . .

I find it more dangerous going from one wheel spinning to 2 and back again. At least witha locker you know what is going to happen. . .

Ideally I would run an LSD in preference if funds permit.

Lockers are hard on cars, but so am I. It comes down to your driving style. A locker is going to be a pain in slow tight stuff.

We welded both diff centres in my brothers Pajero. Just disengage a front hub to revert to an open centre. I was very surprised at how well it performed with the front diff locked.

I would suggest driving a car with a locked diff off street to get a feel before plugging the welder in.

City commuter? Forget it.

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