im still very intrest im just a little concerned i will have the details to complete the head, i have no idea about maching and #### but i presume they need all the angles and where to drill diagrams??? also i made a mistake and thought the exhust rocker setup was going to come with it. and yea i dont know enough about it to custom make it. SO yea im still intrested but need alot more info to comfirm, also wat valves to buy wat valve seats where to get em all that type of stuff

Im in the same boat as Curtis above...

So keen, but so many issues...

i thought every thing was there so u basicly bolt together and put it on the engine very interensted but concerned

B10bum you took the words right out of my mouth. Still very interested but would still rather be buying a complete functioning head than just a few bits and peices and having to do stuff to it.

I have sent a long[ish] e-mail to LTR outlining what I believe to be the main concerns, some of which have been expressed here.

I have asked that he come up with some pictures of the head that he has, & to clarify several issues.
I explained that many people do not have access to a reputable machine shop & even if they did, the machining on a one-off job can be quite expensive. I also requested that he clarify the rocker issue as well as the piston problem [as in, need a plastic of other material sample for the manufacture of custom forgings]

I explained that the head needs to be available either as a complete assembly, or as a finished machined kit with a list of standard components that can be sourced locally & either used or modified to complete the head.

Anyway, with some luck he will be able to come up with a satisfactory response & we can all end up with what we want at a price that we all find acceptable.

As I read it the price was only ever for the cast head, which LTR would then machine for you (if you wanted) but this was never included in that cast price. LTRs machining price of 100 euro seems reasonable.

I think potential buyers need to budget at least $4000 Aussie dollars to have this running in there car, that may sound expensive for a Datsun A series part but you wont find such a radical after market performance head for any other car at even close to that price.

I think alot of people got caught up in the promise of a bolt on part
Not going to happen people
I'm happy to get whatever comes in the box and the rest I will make/adapt
It might take some time and thinking to get it to work but I will make it happen
Then the Perth guys plan to copy off me.... lol

I'd just like as much info as possible before tackling the project to make sure I don't stuff up my little investment
Hence the need to know the ins and outs of everything to do with the head
Then at least I know honestly what I'm up against

I'm still buying one regardless... even if it's only for a pricey coffee table paperweight
And when people ask what it is... I can tell them its a copy of the famous AY12 racing cylinder head.

LTR isn't doing this to get rich
He needs one for his own racecar... and he's just trying to offset his costs and help us get a rare and exotic piece of racing history... good on him
Which means... he will have to figure it all out and get it running for himself
So that means as he progresses with rocker design, pistons, etc he will share with the rest of us ... or again organise group buys on rockers, valves , springs to offset this inital costs... this helps all of us

I vote give it your support if your able.
The chance may never come again.

i think more research could have been done into how it will be finished off, BEFORE we have to pay money

im sure no one is really desperate to get these as soon as possible

cant we wait a bit longer before casting to ensure we know we can put these together without out pricing 90% of that list

we are using group buying power to reduce the cost of the head, but then going alone for the rest

LTR can you research having these things built to a completed state using the group buy to get discounts at each process

that would be complete except any parts we can source locally and assemble our selves

I am very hesitant to put money down at this stage, there isnt even a detailed description in one clear post of what is to be expected for your money

I believe thats what he's doing
The research
He's not asked anyone for any money yet

soo intresting....

dattoman like you said it would make an awsome paperweight, and a bit of history..

hmmmmm read the whole 9 pages, and so keen but so undecided,... what to do what to do