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Re: warning on dodgy wheel spacers
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How bloody tight were they?

I have some of those very same dodgy spacers on the front wheels of my car. Sure they're cast aluminum from china, but I don't worry about them ever. Use of different lug nuts can have very signifignat consequences. My 280zx turbo wheels needed a 3/8" spacer, kinda thick, and I still relieved the wheel a little to clear the caliper. But what I discovered was the OEM lugnuts - special ones for OEM mag wheels my studs were too short to have enough threads to be safe, about 9 turns I think is the minimum you wanted, i got like 7? anyways... got some aftermarket mag wheel lugs and they were threaded all the way down, adding like 4 more turns getting me a bit more comfortably into the safe to use area.

I wonder if there was very little thread engaged and it pulled the thread out of the bolt or the lug. that could cause a simultaneous failure of several or all the nuts, and have everything look ok.

I could be wrong, but I get strange exotic failures of things so I'm used to finding out why things went bad.

Posted on: 2007/7/14 2:40
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Re: warning on dodgy wheel spacers
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Yea it is wierd, i did them up as tight as i could with a wheelbrace with the car on the ground then got straight in and drove off. There were no noises/ vibrations before it fell off either. All four wheelnuts and studs are perfect still, they are the long type that screw into the rim eg, there is a large gap between the studs and actual wheel. It was on main north road coming up to regency road. Im still going to blame the spacer, may have even cracked it doing it up?

Posted on: 2007/7/15 6:41
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Re: warning on dodgy wheel spacers
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They don't have to be super tight, just 40 ft/lb's would be about right. I don't understand how all 4 nuts came off with no warning, that's odd. Seems like there's more to this.

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i did them up as tight as i could with a wheelbrace
Bad idea. I can easily get 100 lb.ft. torque with the short 1200 iron, with a cross-style wheelbrace I could probably get 150 lb. ft. - but the Nissan specification is only 60 lb. ft. (8.0-9.0 kg-m).

What you want is:
* Even tightening (all four lugs at the same torque)
* Tighten in star pattern

Posted on: 2007/7/16 3:14
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Re: warning on dodgy wheel spacers
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i have had wheels fall off be for..
1. only had 3 nut on a 4 stud rim and it ripped off the nuts but the thread on the bolts was ok ish
maybe your nuts where worn out ??
2. had a wheel fall off dew too the nuts comin off lol it made a lot off noise before it came off

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I've seen this before; Are the lug nuts tapered or are the the shoulder type on the shouldered type? You can have a problem of the lugs bottoming on the stud...............the wheel is on there and the lugs tighten up to the proper torque BUT there is a couple of thou clearance...........the wheel feels tight but isnt. It only takes about 30 ft at speed for all the lugs to spin off. I caught this on my 1200 when using a differant set of rims, something just didn't seem right when I lowered the car off the jack........pulled out of the garage to put the car on the trailer , just happened to check the lugs....sure enough they were loose already.

Tom

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