Apparently the high cost of the Dellow-T50 is the Dellow part of it. The T50 gearbox itself is cheap enough.

It's cheap because they wereckers can't sell 'em. This results from the fact that the buggers are so damn tough that nobody wears them out or breaks them in their original application, so demand for them is low, which drives the price down.

If you can engineer a conversion from an Auto belhousing [it's been done] then a T50 box should fill your needs admirably as clutches are almost an off-the-shelf item.

Borg Warner T-5 is quite heavy compared to the Nissan or Toyota boxes mentioned. Umm, heavy parts make your car slower and should only be used if you need them.

Remember to always add lightness.

Agreed, which makes the Toyota conversion more appealing.

But, like I said, when you've got this little choice, you have to explore every possible avenue...

I am planning something similar...

TnPshow, can u tell me something more about the clutch problem?

"It's stalled due to clutch problems... I'll get back on it one day"

cheers

Tuukka

Guys,the toyota box i"m sure is the only viable alternative.I reasearched this for months before finally deciding,but opted not to go with the dellow but to do our own.
Put very simply,we cut part of the bell housing off a stuffed 60 series just behind the clutch fork hole,Tig welded an alloy plate to this face and bolted thru to the toyota box,we also opted for a spicket bearing in the flywheel as opposed to the crank(easier)before welding on the plate we also rotated the box as the toyota lays over to ease fitment.
But alas it still was not going to go into the tiny tunnel,so we cut it out and installed a section from a sunny automatic,problem solved.The cost of this experiment including gearbox and all the other bits,RPM toyota sprinter clutch etc.etc.was around $1200.00

This all sounds really simple,but when you are breaking new ground expect the un expected and a few stuff ups along the way,but the end result was worth every cent.
It almost seems a shame now as the car only has 2 events left now before the official For Sale sign goes up.

hmmm I am now going down this route, and so far it has cost me $1200, and i havent installed the box yet!

If i have to install a new tunnel, then hopefuly someone is my side.

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I assume you hve the engine set back a bit or something? I had a T50 in my 1000 ute with plenty of clearance all round. After selling the ute/engine the complete 5speed kit cost me around $100

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Sorry Tuukka, I missed this thread for a while.

The problem is the input shaft doesn't stick out far enough.

I think with a little refinement I could make the adaptor half as thick (10mm) to give a bit more.

The other thing I wanted to experiment with was the clutch actuator. I wanted to go to a Concentric Slave Cylinder like these

quik1000 has done the same conversion as I have. It would be nice if he could take some pics

Quote:I keep hearing that a 411 wagon rear axle assembly practically bolts right into a 1200. Is that not true?

Those concentric clutches are the trick setup!

Quote:Hmmm... maybe we can get them cheap at the wreckers?

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Only about 20mm Tyrie,but as the car is so low and runs back to a 1200
ute diff,to get it up high enough into the tunnel to keep the tailshaft straight the original tunnel required the chop,not that it was a big deal with the right gear.Is that section of the 1K ute floor the same as the sedan?

I imagine for a road car you could probably mount it on a bit of an angle and let the uni's do a bit more work if you have the ground clearance available as a legal rego'd car.Cheers