oh and i forgot. u say 120ys will be shadowed by 1200s all the time or whatever. correct me if im wrong guys, but in a racers point of view if a car looses, its not because of car *as the cars are pretty well matched in hp and weight in a race* its generally the driver. same rule applys with martial arts, a good martial artist dosent blame the style of martial art he did if he looses in a spar, he blames himself because he diidnt use it correctly.....so what im trying to say is that its the drivers fault if he looses, outmatched in skill....sorry if it didnt make any sence guys lol im half asleep

i was hoping i wasnt gonna insult you with that, but hey in my opinion the 1200 is better

and what you say about the driver i strongly believe (only reason why i can see that i can match times with heaps of larger engined cars in the rallies ive done)

im over this one, i never said it was the only way to learn driving and never said it was the best way, my point in the begining was that it was ONE way to fine tune ONE area of driving

nah man diidnt take it as an insult, we all have our own views, thats what makes us humans unique. but what u said was a interesting theory on learning how to drive fast and keep control of the back end. lol i would rather much enjoy doing doughnoughts on someones "that i hate" front lawn

i prob shouldnt say this

but...

i cant help myself

why not do doughies on his lawn........with............
the stereo pumping at the same time

Hey Rallycar there is song by the Dead Milkman called Bitchin Camaro - there is a line "Donuts on your lawn"

Tom

ahhh theres nothing better than doing donuts on your arch enemys front lawn while listening to metallica - biltzkrieg