I for one would love an electric car... well 4WD! Instatnt torque, no expencive fuel bills, weight doesnt really bother it(batterys etc). Wouldnt mind a electric daily either. Just waiting for the technology to come down in price and be widely used i spose.

My boss is still dead keen to make his 150cc scooter run on hydrogen/petrol. And when we get that done im sure we'll buy some bunky and convert that too! Like converted said, nobody has actualy done it... everybody is just scared of it so they give of statistics that theres no way it will work... Its worth a go!

planes will be out of the sky looong before cars are off the road

http://warrnambool.yourguide.com.au/news/local/news/general/rising-fuel-prices-turn-young-brothers-into-inventors/786579.aspx

this is only one of the devices claiming great savings. I believe it as Hydrogen is used in India now with CNG increasing octane and the chemical properties to another level where by themselves are inferior to crude.

heard on the radio the other day that somewhere, some company genetically modified a certian yeast strain and now its by product is very close to crude oil... sounds promising.

does anyone know hard hard it is to convert a petrol motor to run on pure ethanol? while electric motors do make a lot more sense as a performance motor it just won't be the same with a boring dead flat torque curve and no noise.

don't for one moment think a 500+Ftlb dead flat torque line from 0RPM's all the way through 6000RPM's is boaring.... turbolag, that is boaring...


HHO is the near future of internal combustion.
I am actually one of those backyard tinkerers...




Notice that fruit-jar in the righthand corner, behind the Strut, with the little blue tube and wires going into it....


I'm even screwing around with some fuel reforming consepts...

Hows the hydrogen working for you? Much power/economy gain? Any problems you have encountered?

well, I'm still an infant in the world of hydrogen, so far, as best I can tell, not worse . I am however still way down on the amount of gas I can and should produce per minute, for the real benifits to be seen.

I have however noticed, even with the small amount of gas I do manage, the engine runs a lot smoother.. and it's almost as if the lower grade fuels actually works better. even under boost conditions where they could not be used without HHO, so just that is allready a saving in cost.... almost 15c\l in price diffs from 93oct to 95oct here....

wellyou see right there...makes the engine run smoother.blah blah blah...no-one has actually ever done it...oh except maybe Stan Meyer but got shot by the oil companies and his hydrogen buggy was a lethal bomb.
Just let all the greenies who have been sucked into the lie go their own way and we can enjoy our petrol engines.
just remember back to the whale blubber days.....oh booh hoo the oils running out save the whales blah blah blah then something better came along. they though land back then with oil on it was a total write off...bad for grazing etc etc.
Dont get sucked in people... theres too much money in all this environmental b/s to stop it now.
look I dont want to be under the gun where the arabs have us all under their thumb i would dearly love to drive an electric car just to piss them off but as someone said some one will hold the monopoly on lithium. It will always happen its the world we live in...enjoy your petrol engines they are fantasitic. Come to think of it I love steam engines as well.....hehehe big white and black smoke trails, smell of wood/coal burning, the grease and oil almost up there with leaded avgas burnt by a works Nissan GTR group A motor........

I was reading in the paper the other day about pneumatic powered cars that they are developing. You have a 320 litre tank of air in your car, which has a range of 120km's and costs $2 to fill up at the servo. And it has a power plug also so you plug into mains and it has an air compressor to fill it's own tank in 4 hours if you have time. The technology is avaliable, but the oil companies bought the patent rights to it. It is people like that who will cause the downfall of the human race I reckon.

On a brighter note, I have been thinking seriously about having a pneumatic powered hillclimb car. It would also work for drag cars where you don't have to go a large distance. The engines are tiny and light. You could put a independant rear end in a 1000, then solid mount the engine right in front of the diff in place of the tail shaft. Air tank in the engine bay. You would knock 150 kg's off the car and have amazing weight distribution. mmmm