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townie
Re: help list modifications for a ca18 1200
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can you even get sr20's engineered properly in some states?. I thought the car was too light.

Posted on: 2010/3/28 0:27
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you can do sr20 conversion there legit..

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Only as a non-turbo motor though. Once its engineered you could slap on a turbo, but it does come down to who you know... :P

Posted on: 2010/3/28 5:11
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but if you slap a turbo onto the SR after its engineered its just as good as having a non engineered sr20det in it...kinda pointless really

to run mid/low 12s in the 1200 you would probably need around 200rwkw from the CA. and if you want it to actually last you will need to atleast rebuilt it and best off to spend the extra grand and go forged pistons and rods whilst its apart. cost me $1100 for forged pistons and rods so not overly expensive
better to have one good engine than to keep on blowing up other engines that have 100-200 thousand KMs on them

SRs are only known so well coz everyone with a silvia has an SR in it. they are no where near as strong as an FJ and never would be. but ofcourse you wont find an FJ20det in a wrecking yard or at many performance shops, afterall how mant DR30 turbos do you see around anyway

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matty
Re: help list modifications for a ca18 1200
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mate if the FJ20det was any good go find one from your local wrecker or performance shop, i bet they will say WTF are you on about, FJ20det WERE good but as time goes by they will become rare and old and hard to find, just like the CA in another few years or the next decade,and if anyone can show he hard info on any CA running under 10s and very easy,

and who would be stupid enonugh to throw money on a engine when there are engines already out there with no mods and stock that already pump 200kw and will fit in the datto engine bay...

if you guys are after power find something quicker 13b s6,7,8
if you just feel like giving money away inverst in a old engine
at the end of the day these conversions can cost up to 10 to 20K depending on your taste but you absolutly think you will get more than 5K back... there dirrt cheap on ebay...


but good luck



How is he giving money away? He already owns a CA ute and has stated that he is after 160-180rwkw which his car should make with the current modifications and a decent tune.
Matty

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datto13b
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giving money away? well if you can add up all your expenses and still then not be garunteed that your 1.8L is not gonna blow every time you give it then it will yeah any dope can achive anything but its maintaining the engine to keepit at peak....and thats where you will spend your hard earned cash.. save the cash and buy a decent engine that are still to day comon with 150-180kw. and if your gonna achive times the small 1.8 CA wont get thw results and feeling you want, stick to the A15 series and work that and save your cash son

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lethal_john
Re: help list modifications for a ca18 1200
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^^dude you are so confusing what your dribbling about has got nothing to do with the subject at hand, the money he spends on doing another engine swap he could have a forged ca.

one thing you'll have to look at is axle tramp if you haven't got anything setup for that

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datto13b, you do actually realise that an SR will need the exact same mods as the CA to get to 180rwkw, they have 144kw at the fly stock(s13) so they also have a fair way to go

and with a stock SR there is no guarrentee that it also wont just spit a rocker or something like that
and its not like an S15 engine is really cheap, being double the price of a CA wouldnt surprise me

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As if a CA18det is not worth the effort please give us a break.
13b Turbo engines are not cheap or engineered in Vic and parts have now doubled from Mazda. A complete seal kit is around 1300 bucks aftermarket not mazda and then there are rotor housings, rotors and many other things that can/will need replacement.
I can get an FJ20det for 800 without ecu. However Id prefer a lightweight ca18 that makes 200atw and has heaps of aftermarket parts are throwaway prices and also gearboxes galore for 90aud.

ca18 you know you wished you had one.

smooth power, lightweight and economy.

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Re: help list modifications for a ca18 1200
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datto13b wrote:
giving money away? well if you can add up all your expenses and still then not be garunteed that your 1.8L is not gonna blow every time you give it then it will yeah any dope can achive anything but its maintaining the engine to keepit at peak....and thats where you will spend your hard earned cash.. save the cash and buy a decent engine that are still to day comon with 150-180kw. and if your gonna achive times the small 1.8 CA wont get thw results and feeling you want, stick to the A15 series and work that and save your cash son


I guess we all have different experiences with motors, brands etc. My current CA has been in my car for 5 years making 160+ rwkw and is used regularly for circuit racing.

There are only 2 issues I have seen with CAs.
1. Muppets fit them to their cars and wind 15psi into them without replacing the head gasket, coolant lines etc and wonder why they blow head gaskets and cook them. Not smart.
2. In circuit racing applications the sump needs to be enlarged and an oil cooler fitted to prolong bearing life.
Neither of the above issues is exclusive to the CA.

The fact of the matter is the OP already has the motor running in the car. He already has performed modifications that will see him easily reach both his power and quarter mile goals. What you are suggesting is not cost effective. Even if he does pop his current motor at some stage it will still be cheaper for him to fit a rebuilt CA than re-engineer the car for an SR or rotary.

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