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#81
Re: A14/15 turbo~280hp, bore question
Fandatstick
Posted on: 2010/10/2 0:42
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Are these block thicknesses on a standard 76mm bore A14?
#82
Re: A14/15 turbo~280hp, bore question
D
Posted on: 2010/10/2 4:14
Im sure Im speaking on behalf of many people here on this site
"thank you for the pictures and effort in cutting an otherwise good repairable A15 engine!" You can see that there is no cooling beetween the 1-2 and 3-4 cylinders and they actually touch which means the same could be done the to gaps of 2-3 cylinder in the offset machining. Now I ask Is it possible you can go further and make another cut at the base where the sleeves/liners would slide into in a wet sleeve setup? eg. the pics below show the base of a renault engine and the sleeve used for its big bore conversion done by Orger engines in Victoria. On an iron block I wonder if its necessary to coat is with something to stop corrossion? eg. Would penetrol work? for once the cementing occurs at the base the lube will be stuck/trapped in there keeping the iron lubed. Rubey best ask Lemonhead if the extra few mm of the offset bore could be taken up by the piston pin but most likely crankins need modifying. Im thinking of using an early a12 block with the 77mm crank for 1666cc and no engineering but the a15 at 1796cc is just too good to not engineer as 1488cc with turbo or e16 cranked 1997cc quad-carbed NA snarling torque monster. Its opens a totally new can of worms to A series benchmarks/possibilities yet outer dimensions of the A15 would remain so small and compact!!!
#83
Re: A14/15 turbo~280hp, bore question
Datsun100ATurbo
Posted on: 2010/10/2 8:33
Yep, itīs a std A14 76mm
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#84
Re: A14/15 turbo~280hp, bore question
Datsun100ATurbo
Posted on: 2010/10/2 8:44
This block looks far better than it is, it has been outside for years and is full of corrosion. As i wrote earlier I have several A15/15 engines for spare, both standard and machined but still it doesnīt feel good to cut a A-engine into pieces. I can try to cut the block whereever you like, I might have to borrow a tigersaw for deeper cuts but my frined has promised that I can use his. Give som more specific details where you want it to be cut
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#85
Re: A14/15 turbo~280hp, bore question
A14force
Posted on: 2010/10/3 6:20
It would be good to see all the thicknesses of this block Marcus. Maybe place the info in the wiki so that people can reference them in future rather than have to chop up any more engines in the name of science.
I gave a mate an A14 block I had which had bore damage from a smashed piston. He cut that up to measure the deck thickness. We don't want to see more blocks chopped up than is absolutely necessary.
#86
Re: A14/15 turbo~280hp, bore question
Datsun100ATurbo
Posted on: 2010/10/3 8:11
Itīs a good idea to put the info in the wiki! Where would it be best to place it, straight under A14 engine info or are there a specific place for modifications??
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#87
Re: A14/15 turbo~280hp, bore question
Datsun100ATurbo
Posted on: 2010/10/3 8:35
Did some reading this morning..... about cylinder wall thickness requirements. According to Graham Bell in his book "Forced induction performance tuning" quote "At 75hp per cylinder I would be looking at a minimum wall of around 1.010-1.130in. Towards the bottom of the cylinders we may be able to drop appr 0,020in. in wall thickness...."! So maybe itīs possible to bore the A-block to 79mm without getting problems!?
#88
Re: A14/15 turbo~280hp, bore question
D
Posted on: 2010/10/3 11:13
If you look at the following pics you can see the light blue line
indicating the depth at where it would be good to get a cut. That way it can be seen what the base would be like where the cylinder wall meet the floor of the water containment area. Also Im thinking Marcus you will have trouble with 79mm bores on the middle 2-3 webbing where its thinner than 1-2 or 3-4 areas. Attach file: base cut request.JPG (44.74 KB)![]() base cut request 1.jpg (31.83 KB)![]()
#89
Re: A14/15 turbo~280hp, bore question
Lemonhead
Posted on: 2010/10/3 13:03
Thanks Marcus, that is good info on cutting up a block, well done.
I have done 79mm blocks before without a problem, admittedly not boosted. In my opinion, all of your turbo boost pressure will not be putting high expansion (compression) pressure on the sidewalls of your bore until I'm guessing about the last 25mm (I'm guessin here - ok) of your compression stroke. All of your ignition and power takes place around here, i.e 25mm down the bore to TDC depending on your set up. This is a pretty strong area on the A-series block. So, to sum up my point, go for the 79mm bore, what's the worst that can happen, split a bore? I've never heard of one splitting at the top due to high compression, they have always been mid stroke due to very thin sidewalls, and hey what if you do split one...throw it out and start again. Nothing ventured nothing gained. ![]()
#90
Re: A14/15 turbo~280hp, bore question
Datsun100ATurbo
Posted on: 2010/10/4 18:25
I will try to cut it like you wanted, I am also interested to see the rest of the inside of the block! Even if I bore the block straight there will be atleast 2,5mm left on each cylinderwall and that might be enough!? Itīs also possible to bore cyl 1 and 4 offset.
Here are some pics with appr. measures! 5,5mm 7mm 4,5mm 4,5mm 6mm Quote:
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