You should try a BT50 or Ford Ranger - segment leaders I say.

I've driven Amarok, Triton, Ranger/BT50 (same car). We don't have the Great Wall commerical vehicles, but do have the passenger cars - they are getting close to making a car that operates like a car but around 40 years behind the game at the moment (will probably only take them 5-10 years to be reasonable.)

Look at Hyundai and Kia, they now make cars you could consider normal. They can go around corners, go over bumps, are reliable and have reasonable interiors.

By the way I'd rate big 4WD commericals in this order
1. BT50/Ranger
2. Triton
3. Amarok
4. Hilux
5. Anything else

If I'd driven a Nissan I bet I'd rate it higher than Amarok at a guess, I might be a bit fussy but I was very surprised at the amount of understeer that thing can produce, but I'm told the Hilux is worse.

Mmmmm car rant....

Traction control required and anti roll Ben- how could not have driven such pos/---- they must be lining up for your parts on their cars.

BT50/Ranger has roll over mitigation, trailer sway mitigation, load adaptive control, hill hold control, hill descent control, ABS, traction control, stability control...and drives like a car. (I might be a bit biased though).

It is fair to say it is a generation ahead of the triton, so two generations aheads of the Amaroks and Hiluxes of this world.

And the Hilux/Amarok would be at least another generation of design ahead of the chinese stuff

The Mazda/Ford is pricey though.

I should really drive a Colorado and see if they are any good, as I imagine they are a fair bit cheaper.

If we'd done the Great Wall it probably would have cost more...

A 'bit biased' ????????
Ranks a Triton ahead of an Amarok .......... Takes all types I guess.
Next he will be selling some Carbon Tax goodness
Buy what suits your usage,budget and taste I say. Horror stories can be found for any and all vehicles including the name brands but few good wraps for the wall !
Cheers.

old 720 with Sr20DET will be better than any triton ;)

Series IIA Landy 110 with a 186 red. Now there's a go-anywhere, go-forever, too slow to be unsafe, pull anything beastie that has a 55 degree tipping angle... Without the need of electronics!
Just as long as you don't mind it leaking oil out of every seal/gasket/orifice all over the driveway.

I haven't driven Tritons much but can't remember anywhere near the understeer the Amarok would give. Also the feel on a bumpy road seemed smoother in a Triton.

If you'd driven a Ranger/BT50 though you'd be hard pressed to beat it in the segment at the moment.

Everyone will have new models soon enough, although I doubt the hilux will change in a hurry.

The Amarok is a good commerical vehicle, I am judging all of these trucks more on how close to passenger car handling they have - which is not what they are acutally designed to do so I guess I'm not judging them in the same way they are judged by those who want to buy them.

I imagine most people would care less how well they handle, they're trucks meant to carry a lot of #OOPS# and tow a lot of #OOPS#.

So I should declare my criteria a bit.

Don't want to dis on your Amarok either, I was just surprised a bit that it's handling that I expected it to piss all over the Mazda offering (being European) just didn't.

Thought Id add, I just Bought one, the v200 single cab 4x4 2l turbo diesel, 6 speed manual. I purchased it for my business for a few reasons, For $22990 on the road its half the price of any "japanese" 4x4 single cab, 3 year warranty with roadside assist, 6 year rust warranty, and borgwarner transfer case and turbo. Fuel economy is fantastic at 8.3l/100 combined and 105kw and 300nm torque or thereabouts. I couldn't be happier. In 3 years when the warranty's up I will either grab another one or if its gone well, keep it for a few more years. For this sort of price, after tax offsets and depreciation, it will have cost me far less than 20k. Usb mp3 stereo and all the mod cons. Driver and passenger airbag, I know id rather be in this in a crash than my datto or any new small car! Anyway that's just my opinion, let the flaming begin lol. cheers

With the depreciation of car values after 3 years you are still better off with a quality vehicle from Japan and I wouldnt look at a Ford or GM 4x4 at all except a late Territory with the Ford 6 and even then Id be still worried.

It's a good thing that depreciation is a tax deduction for your business, given that a 2011 V200 has already dropped between 55 & 64%!
And speaking of rather being in a Great Wall than a Datto or a small car, we all acknowledge our pride & joys are veritable pie tins, but today's small cars?? Picture this: You're in your Great Wall driving at about 70km/h and you run up the back of, say, a Honda Jazz (5 star ANCAP, like just about every other new small car). Going by the ANCAP footage I posted earlier in the thread, you'll be trapped with broken/crushed legs and the Jazz driver will walk away with whiplash and a sash-like bruise from their seatbelt.