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No life (a.k.a. DattoMaster)  
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Can someone do the maths for me on this. This is just an exercise.
Brand new 'brand X' car $35,000
25% deposit, the rest on finance over, ummmmm, say four years. Add comprehensive insurance. Lets say it's a reasonably popular 'brand X sports model', so the insurance should be nice & cheap. [yeah, right] Being a sports model, we will say that it is driven in a 'sporty' fashion much of the time. Allow normal depreciation for a car that takes a bit of a flogging from time to time.
Four years later it's all paid for.
How much [approx] have we paid for this car in total?
Whats it worth to sell on the open market?
What has been the true cost of our four years motoring? [Hint,.. it wasn't cheap.]
Perhaps doing a quality rebuild on a selected model isn't such a money drain after all, particularly if you can pick a model & bodystyle that becomes a sought after classic in later years. It might just APPRECIATE in value if it's done right.
Think about it.
Posted on: 2004/9/28 13:02
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No life (a.k.a. DattoMaster) 
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Quote: Hey for your rims, what width does the $2200 cover? AU$2200 includes GST, and is for 15inch rims painted in their 2pac paint, and 6 or 7 inch width. Same Price.
Posted on: 2004/9/28 13:23
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Yeah but...
The problem is of knowing that the car you have purchased will be sought after in years to come (body shape, engine, chasssis etc.)
And another thing
Most people I know all think that ALL Datsuns no matter what type, hp readings, look are all a bunch of s|-|it and that the money thrown into them is a complete waste of time...
THIS REALY PISSES ME OFF
What they DONT understand or see is that the local dickhead with the lowered common whore with 17" incredible chromies on them with a pod and a crappy stereo is COOL to most of the public... But when say a fully restored 1600, sunny, 200b, 180b, 1200, 1000 coupe (i could go on :P), drives past which looks great they think it should be spending the rest of its life where it should be , in a paddock or wreckers...
I almost cry everytime people tell me this!!
But the point of no return is when you KNOW that you have to sell your prise posesion to pay for other expenses, projects etc when you know you put in so much time and effort for what? For some other person to tamper with your hard earned work...
Sorry for having a bitch about one-minded dickheads i have to put up with!!
Dave
Posted on: 2004/9/28 13:31
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phunkdoktaspok wrote:
$2200 always seems a lot for wheels, but when they come to your exact requirements and fit perfect, the extra cost is easily overlooked.
I just wish my wagon was to a stage where it looked like the money hasn't been going to waste. On top of that I am being led astray since a customer gave me their Citreon due to it having a blown engine, I just keep picturing it with the 454 and turbo 400 collecting dust in my brothers shed. I know they are an ugly car, but its just begging for it. Tell me if I am wrong? Below is a pic of a Citreon
i love these cars. they're so quirky. but i thought they were front wheel drive...? and dodgeman, you hit the nail on the head for me - and yours is pretty much the exact response i give to my parents every time i "buy another bomb", and then i go through the figures on what their $13,990 hyundai has REALLY cost them.
Posted on: 2004/9/29 1:21
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No life (a.k.a. DattoMaster) 
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 What's this? a question! I am gonna act like an adult and take it as that. Just a question. pro240c yes these Citreon are FWD but noooooo a 454 will not just bolt straight in. These Citreons have a funky engine/transmission combo where the trans is actually infront of the North/South facing engine. I suspect it would cost a lot of dollars to connect the 454 to this transmission and I also suspect the 454 would have too much torque for the transmission to last. Therefore I am leaning towards using a full chasis ( possibly a Hilux after consultation with an engineer) and fitting the Citreons body to it with a new floor. The full chasis will enable the bigblock to be fitted and legally street registered. Cheers for showing interest, Your buddy Steve.
Posted on: 2004/9/29 6:55
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phunkdoktaspok wrote:
yes these Citreon are FWD but noooooo a 454 will not just bolt straight in. These Citreons have a funky engine/transmission combo where the trans is actually infront of the North/South facing engine.
like drag hondas in the US but reversed? by that i mean where they use a hewland-style transaxle (like a VW box) and hang the engine over the front wheels to shift the weight forwards so that on launch the weight doesn't shift rearwards as much therefore the traction wheels stay on the ground...? that is funky for a production vehicle. i think your biggest obstacle for the hilux chassis would be the narrowing of the body towards the rear to make the chassis fit nicely. but then, anything is possible if you're willing to whip out an angle grinder.
Posted on: 2004/9/29 7:24
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No life (a.k.a. DattoMaster) 
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phunkdoc, what u r planninng is an outrage against the laws of nature. u dont seem to understand what citroen used to represent, b4 they went all mainstream. they were brave to follow completely thier own path of engineering, and far ahead of time. and if u ever drove one u would understand how good they were. fantastic comfy ride, FAST, headligts that see round corners etc etc etc. so you may do a hi tech transplant but u certainly may not use simple low tech brawn. pushrods and live rear axle replacing the most complex self levelling height adjusting show-off parking system. u cant put a motor from breed that stayed long behind the time into a car that was well ahead of time. its just plain wrong.
Posted on: 2004/9/29 7:43
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1000Coupe wrote:
phunkdoc, what u r planninng is an outrage against the laws of nature. u dont seem to understand what citroen used to represent, b4 they went all mainstream. they were brave to follow completely thier own path of engineering, and far ahead of time. and if u ever drove one u would understand how good they were. fantastic comfy ride, FAST, headligts that see round corners etc etc etc.
so you may do a hi tech transplant but u certainly may not use simple low tech brawn. pushrods and live rear axle replacing the most complex self levelling height adjusting show-off parking system. u cant put a motor from breed that stayed long behind the time into a car that was well ahead of time. its just plain wrong.
from the "hotrodder's guide to the universe" rule number 2 - keep it original as far as is practical. everyone's version of 'practical' differs, so it's basically saying original isn't always best. i'd prefer to see schmick engineering and a custom 4link rear end over some self levelling suspension that i'm sure costs a sh1tload to fix and maintain. but that's my 2c.
Posted on: 2004/9/29 8:02
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The biggest part of a project (ezcept for the love of the car) is the bargin finding. there is no better way to spend thursday (when the local trade and exchange mag comes out) and the weekend hunting for bargins and nailing people on good deals. I have the datsun as one project and I buy and sell cars and parts to help fund it, partly because im still in uni and its easier than working 9-5 but also because its adicitive. In the last 2 years I have owned 12 cars from austins to corrollas to escorts and I have yet to make less than $600 prof on each, some Ive made up to $2000. I have a sweet set of minilights I paid $100 for, a gx bonnet I got for $100 etc. Still I will loose $$ on the datto, I know and I dont care coz I love it.
Quinn
Posted on: 2004/9/29 8:02
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1000Coupe  I know and I apologise. Maybe I should fully restore it instead  nah thanks for the datto inspiration. pro240c your use of question marks has me confused as to whether you are asking questions or not? not that I really care. Cheers Bud, Steve
Posted on: 2004/9/29 8:26
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