I think it was about 1989 or 90 when vic introduced power restrictions on p platers. I was to young to remember what differance it made to the road tole. But the stupid thing was you couldnt drive a 308 in a in a kingswood but you could drive a V6 in a commodore VN. My point is the 308 in the kingswood was a lot torquier than the commodore. But the comodore up to 120kmh woud #### all over the V8. Its the same with bikes L platers can ride apprilia 250 2 strokes one of the fastest 250 road bikes in the world but cant jump on an old mid 80s 400 wich wouldn pull a greasy stick out of a ducks arse I think some one needs to stop number crunching & actulay drive or ride these things