Ok, D, you're intent on only telling half the story every time. Let me clear some things up for you.
Quote:
The windsor was the first design to break away from the first Y type v8.
The sbc came out in 1955. No, it is not a "Y" type. Ford designed the Windsor to replace the "Y". The sbc necessitated this move.
Quote:
Even the Boss 302 won the 1970 Yank SCCA in a oversized heavily made mustang designed by wait for it! an ex-Gm design engineer. And not that Im a 1970 mustang fan (they arent my taste), they are the heaviest of Mustangs made.
In 1970, GM was on strike. The 1970 Camaro's you find will be called 1970 and a half. As a consequence of this, Camaro production with the large rear spoiler that Jim Hall wanted, did not qualify for SCCA competition. If you go
here, scroll 1/3 of the way down the page, you will find an article called "Ford wins at Laguna Seca, Rain wins at Dallas". In that unbiased article, (actually, you will notice it is an AMX site), it will tell you that because of the Camaro's production numbers, they were driving a plain jane Camaro during the 1970 season. If Ford didn't win against a plain jane Camaro,, it would have looked pretty bad, eh?
Quote:
60s Windsor 289/302 - 460lbs 1960's-70's Chev small block - 575lbs
I don't know what your point is. I've seen sbc's put out over 1200 hp without N2O and be steetable. I can't say I've see a Windsor put out over 1000 hp without N2O and be streetable. It's all relative to potential D
Quote:
In Australia Jap v8s are not allowed to compete with the ford vs holden field.
Quote:
If the Jap v8s were allowed to compete here then sales would go down completely.
Remember what happened in F1? They allowed Honda to compete, Honda won for several years and then dropped out. During Honda's reign, they drove the price up so high, that there are no independent's running anymore and I doubt there will be. I don't believe racing is or should be about how many dollars you can pump into it. With enough dollars, anyone can win. That's why I like NASCAR. No engine management systems. That evens out the playing field. To enjoy racing as a spectator or a participant, I don't believe it's necessary or even desirable to have a $50+ mil/year budget. Toyota is now running the truck series. I haven't kept up with racing for the past several years so I'm no expert here, but I believe the V8 Toyota is running is a specially designed and built engine for that series. It is not a production motor. It is not mass produced. Nothing like firing up the foundry to build a few custom blocks to go racing, is there? What's the sense of that? See how much money you can spend to win?
D, though you apparently love the Windsor dearly, but it is not in production anymore. There's a reason for that. You Ford fans alway like to point out how the aftermarket supports the sbc better, and that's the reason for it's success. In fact, exactly the opposite is true. You see, the aftermarket is not going to jump in unless they believe they're going to get a return on their investment. GM did their homework on the small block and the big block and that is why the aftermarket supports them. It's all about numbers with a $ in front of them. As an individual, I chose the sbc because it's reliable, cost effective, easy, plentiful. I have a Datsun for the same reasons.
You can go to just about any car show or look at any car mag and see a Chevy engine in a Ford. I have yet to see a Ford engine in a Chevy. You must be blind not to notice that.
Transfer
