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rotary conversion in 1200 ute
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Hey all i got a 1200 ute and i want to do a rotor conversion for my ute (i have used the search tool and i hav got a bit of info already). i have done the stanza brake conversion already but i would like to know if there is fiting kits i could get to fit the new motor. i wouldaslo ask for some one who has done the conversion to PM me an aproxomate price they have spend for it.
would yoube able to tel me your engine combinations and gearboxes you use to do it. and a litle instrustion in how it was done.
thansk in advance.

Posted on: 2005/11/17 10:13
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if your gonna do it, do it right. poor man (me) always pays twice. best bet (which i didnt do but wish i did) is buy a rx7 with a good motor, pull it all out and chuck it in your datto.

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i dont think there is any fitting kits available off the shelf... you have the option of mid mounting the engine or front mounting it which will give you more exhaust clearance.

you will need custom mounts
custom transmission tunnel to fit gearbox
custom exhuast manifold to clear steering box
hydraulic clutch conversion
custom tailshaft
bigger radiator
an oil cooler
upgraded fuel system
just to name a few

ive got a series 2 rx7 12a engine in mine.. with a series 4 non turbo gearbox behind it.. my gearbox has been shortened (remote shifter).

ive spent bugger all getting mine on the road as far as conversions go... but the money is yet to be spent as i still need to build a good strong motor (im running a stock 12a) and want to paint the engine bay while its out...

my advice is to do your research before you begin.. and speak to an engineer first before you start if you plan to have it legally registered... good luck

Posted on: 2005/11/17 11:36
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I've heard a lot of bad things about the reliability of rotors...but without any actual knowledge yet of rotors (outside of a book).

Am I telling stories or am I onto something?

Posted on: 2005/11/17 13:24
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the biggest no no that most ameture rotar owners do is rev the nuts out of them when they are cold. This is what kills them as the seals wear prematurely, so when seals fail then down comes the compression.

Other then that as long as you frequently check and clean/replace your sparkplugs they are very reliable and very powerful!!!

I tried the 13bt route but EVERY engineer said NO!!! But if anyone in QLD can put me onto a engineer that would pass it and make it legal for street use please LET ME KNOW!

thanks

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I thought the whole reliability thing with rotors was a bit of a beat up....
Didn't some of the first ones have problems and it has tarnished the name ever since?
From what I have seen they appear to be just as reliable as any other performance engine...

Omg. noone has bitched about a rotor in a datsun yet...
How amazing is that?

Posted on: 2005/11/17 14:30
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The very first rotors released suffered engine failure due to cooling problems, thats correct lobster.

But they still aren't reliable. Its mainly fouling that stops them from going, as they are basically a 2-stroke. Another problem is oil starvation of the rear rotor. If you want a rotor be prepared to do the maintenance that comes with it.

But the rewards are certainly there!! A properly built rotor is the most awesome thing to drive on the street....bar nothing!!!!

Posted on: 2005/11/17 17:04
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What sort of maintenance are you thinking.

Very very regular oil changes?
Very regular spark plug changes?

I've had this rotor idea in the back of my mind for a little while - so have some interest but not enough to hit the books for research as yet.

Posted on: 2005/11/18 3:26
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Not so much oil changes, just every 5000 is fine. You'll go through a few (a lot) spark plugs (expensive ones, not standard $3 ones), depending on how wild your motor is. It won't be too bad if you're motor is basically standard, but the more power you're putting out, the more often you'll have to replace stuff.
Its just like any performance engine, the more stressed it is the more things will break.

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i think its that rotors are very tempremental (spelling?) that gives them the bad name..

ie.. if you overheat it... starve it of oil.. if it leans out..etc youve probably done damage to seal and will need to rebuild not long after

basically you need to keep the maintainence up... and need to keep an eye on things..

a piston motor can handle such problems and still be fine after the cause of the problem is fixed... a rotor cant..

i guess thats why people who own rotor's generally have their head under their bonnet after each drive..

and if you've had a rotor... you'll have a chuckle and agree with me on that one!

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