Is the offset on one of the wheels wrong? Can you quickly swap the tyres to see if the problem moves with the wheel on the drivers side?

If the problem moves, then you will need to sort the wheels out.

A faint possibility.

Cheers,
Chris

Thanks for all the help.

Basically that is also what I thought, the diff is offcentre.
What I don't understand, How does the suspention places know when it is centered?
Do they have special alignment tools to put it centre.
Something else.
If the diff is offcentre as it is now, will it not cause premature wear on the universal joints?

If I look at the left rear the tyre sits in the normal position.
I can actually have someone in the back on the left side and it will not rub when going through dips. Only on the drivers side which is the right rear. This is when looking from the back of the car.

I inspected all bushes and links to make sure it was not bend in an accident. Everything looks fine.

I will take it to a suspention place to check out for me.
Just wanted to share my problem with you guys.
Thanks

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L18_B110

It was always looking normal with the 12 inches.
When I put on the 185/60 R13 tyres I noticed it being 1cm out of the guard on the drivers side(right hand side if looking from the back).
The left hand side is looking normal.

I agree with dattodude that the diff should be centered. However it's common for them to be around 10mm one way or the other, which is not really noticeable until you fill the gaurds out with wide wheels.

1200GXman, you say the drivers side rear is sitting about 1 cm outside the gaurd - how far in does the other side sit relative to the gaurd? If it is 10mm or more inwards of the gaurd, then you should be able to correct the problem, wether it be springs, hangers, or bent/twisted 'chassis rails' that the springs are mounted off. If the LH rear (assuming you guys are RHD) is sitting just inside the gaurd, then the problem is wheel offset.

what width wheels are you using? 6" would be the maximum you'll fit under the rear of a sedan without clearance problems IF you have the right offset. 185/60 tyres will easily fit under the rear of a sedan on the right wheels, and assuming nothing is bent out of shape.

if it is not the springs that are responsible for the diff being off-centre, replacing them with reset leaves of the same height will not fix the problem, unless they are so stiff they don't move! And raising the rear of the car up is treating the symptom, not the problem.

You are basing your fix on "unreliable information". Sorry. The diff should be "centred". I challenge anyone to show me proof that this "offset diff theory" has merit. The Nissan Factory workshop manual shows no evidence of this being true.

I know you like the height of the car, but it should purposely be at that height, it shouldn't be a by-product of worn out springs. Go to a suspension place and get them to sort your springs out.

Take it to a suspension place before you chew up a tyre or 2.

An incorrectly installed panhard rod (aftermarket one) can pull the diff to one side during suspension travel, but not the springs on their own.


ps. Is it possible that the car has hit a cement/stone gutter at some point before you bought it? Bending the rear springs and spring mounts?

Let me explain in detail the whole story.

When standing at the back of the car looking at the back. If you compair the left side wheel (passenger side)to the right side wheel (driver's side) at the back, I noticed the passenger side is normally mounted.
The driver's side the wheel is standing out of the guard about 1cm. The rubbing is when I go through dips in the road.
There is no play sideways it is only up and down.
When looking at the driver's side tyre I noticed the way it is positioned it is traveling into the guard and then the guard is almost cutting the tyre's side because it is too far out of the arch.(The 185 fatty tyre is too large for the guard)
My dad said they were designed like this because all cars carry most of their live only a driver.
When the diff is positioned a little to the driver's side it is to help with the balance and handling.
I do not want to change this.
I know I must retention the leafs but I still want to keep the car low at the back.
The rims are definately not the problem.
Must I retention the leaf springs and build out the guards at the back?
If I have a pasanger at the back on the passenger's side it only rubs on the drivers side.
I do not want to even think what will happen if I put someone on the drivers side in the back.
The guard will cut my tyre to shreds and even rip out a piece of the body.

if I retention the leafs, will it not make them stiffer and not make the tyre travel so deep into the guard solving the problem?

Let me explain in detail the whole story.

When standing at the back of the car looking at the back. If you compair the left side wheel (passenger side)to the right side wheel (driver's side) at the back, I noticed the passenger side is normally mounted.
The driver's side the wheel is standing out of the guard about 1cm. The rubbing is when I go through dips in the road.
There is no play sideways it is only up and down.
When looking at the driver's side tyre I noticed the way it is positioned it is traveling into the guard and then the guard is almost cutting the tyre's side because it is too far out of the arch.(The 185 fatty tyre is too large for the guard)
My dad said they were designed like this because all cars carry most of their live only a driver.
When the diff is positioned a little to the driver's side it is to help with the balance and handling.
I do not want to change this.
I know I must retention the leafs but I still want to keep the car low at the back.
The rims are definately not the problem.
Must I retention the leaf springs and build out the guards at the back?
If I have a pasanger at the back on the passenger's side it only rubs on the drivers side.
I do not want to even think what will happen if I put someone on the drivers side in the back.
The guard will cut my tyre to shreds and even rip out a piece of the body.

a 185/60 will fit easily on the back of a sedan with the right size and offset wheel. I had 205/60*13 on the back of my old sedan with lipped gaurds. What size wheels do you have?

Do they scrub only when both side of the axle hit a bump, or when cornering too?

You could 'pump' the gaurds out a bit, if they only just hit. But that could crack paint, which could cost extra in paint repairs.

The other thing you could look at is how much material is left on the mounting face of the wheel that bolts to the hub. It may be possible to have a few mm machined off that mounting face.

The spacers are worn out, this makes for slack between the leaves, and allows them to swing side to side. You need to pull them apart, repack them and pack them back together.

Going down a series in tyres may help. Go from 60series to 55series.

If this doesn't help..simply put, your wheel offsets are wrong.

So look at getting 2mm or 3mm machined off the back of the wheel mounting face. It will need taking the tyres off the wheels.

Cheers,
Chris

i had some trx rims on the back of my sedan and they used too scrub on the leaf springs all u can really do is get spring put in the back or get smaller rims

Hi all

My sedan I put on a while ago some 185/60 R13 tyres.
My problem is that at the back it rubs on the lip.
Me and my dad used a grinder with a thin blade and cut the lip away to give it space.
The damn thing still rubs.
I don't have a spare wheel in the back at the moment to prevent this.
What I suspect is my rear leave springs are soft.
I need to retention them.
But then it is going to be higher from the ground. At the moment I like it nice and low as it is.
I do not want to put on flares as it will spoil the look of the car.
Is there something else I can do?
Any suggestions is welcome.