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Re: Where and how much
No life (a.k.a. DattoMaster)
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Re: Where and how much
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A true car buff would know these answer's
maybe not all but fair few 98.8 % of them anyway
knowledge is everything when you need to trace buy find replace rebuild in same substance's materal's used in old school day's



knowing exzact measurement's help with any part that can match regardless of make or model
cross matching (borg warner had 20% production on early datto's) on drive tran equipment
who else had the finger's in the pie
german's pom's americain's
who

I'VE been shot down saying Basically I know nill about the b10 b20 which is true but
someone must be full of the answer's
instead of emplying they know all but know very little

Cause guess work can not fix it if it break's plain fact's do
have fun measureing a guestament with a verna gauge

A TRUE DATTO FREAK WOULD KNOW IF YOU (THEY) HAVE RESTORED HOLE DATTO'S IN THE past present or future

next batter up

come on
must be a freak out there hiding in the wood work some where


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After reading all of your posts on various subjects i still can't quite work out why you need to know all these exsact measurements/ details.
Are you restoring you car to original specs or just keen on knowing it all?
Cheers


do you pay a tosser
been ripped off
or do you work on your car yourself
this is true knowledge

are all the seat warm's just gereral name dropper's or relay rewrite what have heard
NOT LEARNED by on experence's

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If you like I'll write it in jap or any tungue you like
which you choose
may them I'd get true answer's

may to high teck for you

maybe broke it down to far ...
not far enough


the rest of the public need the answer's too
When you need info DON'T speak (write english)
what to simple to answer or to greedy to let other's know

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I dont have the anwsers you want and dont have the time to give them to you, on the other hand attacking ppl wont get your very far.It might be just me but i find your posts very hard to understand, i myself have read it over 3 times and im still not getting it all...

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DMan knows the answers to those questions, including the body measument points I reckon. Several of us know them for the B110.

If you want a good truck, buy it from someone who knows their truck inside out, knows the factory specifications and sells you a good vehicle. If the owner gets the facts mixed up, watch out! There may be something wrong with the vehicle.

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whaddayougonnadowithallthatuselessinfoanyway?youcan'tevenfkingspell!

Posted on: 2006/3/9 4:48
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wonder why the first thing pople new to the forum do is start making waves. May be a little more graceful attitude would make the whole thing smother for every one.

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Boy, you ask some interesting questions here. Lets see if I can help out a little.
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Every ute I've seen in the west has b 20 on it (black plate) 1200 bein the motor size
1. how much wheel travel in the wheel arch (all wheel's)
2. brake force needed to stop car
(brake cyclinder bios)
3. amount c c fluid in the brake line and master cyclinder and slave cyclinder's (all wheel's)
no one has given the info I needed
no one can give complete break down
measuring point's to bend it straight if it get's bent (front end rear end )
4. no specks on correct diff ratio's (many size's were in use )
5. or even how many have been produced including consep car's or still alive (drivable) with rego (b 10 b 20) the post would be supa huge
6. tray size
7. axle lenght's
8. weight's variation's
9. tail shaft variation's (lenght width size steel)
10. weigh of the shaft
11. interior difference's
12. materal used
13. dash style's avalible
14. plastic or bakerlite
15. difference in air con unit's avaliable then and now (nipo denso or who)


Then and only then will beleive the so called proffesional's and specailist's cause no one person or (one) edition (book) or web site has all these answer's like I'M not surprized to find here
steel carbon statous for hardening
A. body
B, cam
C. crank
D. diff housing
Some one must have half an idea
Every Datsun 1200 ute will have B120 on the plate & 1000 utes will have B20. This is how they left the factory
Now, lets go to question No....
1. The wheel travel will be determined by the distance to the suspension stops. Lowered vehicles will have less suspension travel than stock height ones. You will need to measure the ute that you have to come up with the answer.

2. Brake force? This will be determined by the speed, the load you are carying, the available distance & the urgency of the situation. This is really an impossible question to answer without knowing ALL of the variables, then testing it.

3. The amount of brake fluid in the system? Are you kidding? Just buy a 500ml container of it & keep pouring it in 'till it's full like the rest of us do. Why would anyone need to know this? The actual volume is greater with worn brake linings/pads & machined drums/rotors & less with new ones.

4. Diffs? Datsun 1200 ute, early,.. reported to be H145 in 4.11 to 1 ratio. Later models ['74 onwards] H165 in 4.11 to 1 ratio.
Datsun 1000 ute,.. H145 in 4.375 to 1 ratio with a 4.625 to 1 ratio as an option.

5. To get the actual production numbers, you will need to contact Nissan in Japan. I'm sure they will be glad to help.

6. Datsun 1000 ute tray size, [inside measurement], is 1,535mm [length] x 1,230mm [width] x 380mm [height] I do not have the 1200 ute dimentions.
Why is this important anyway?

7. Axle length? I don't know, but as long as it is the correct axle for the rear end that you are using, who cares, just as long as it fits & works.

8. Weight variation between what & what? 1200 & 1000 models? A clear question gets a clearer answer.
1000 utes are 615Kg, ex factory.

9. Tailshaft variations? Again, between what & what. All the 1000's used one length driveshaft & the 1200 ute would have used one shaft for H145 diff models, & a slightly longer one for H165 diff models. You will need to actually measure them for accurate dimentions, the same as others do when they need to know.

10. Driveshaft weight. Sorry, I would need to weigh one to know. Why is this important anyway?

11. Interior differences. 1200 ute, early. They came as a standard model with the same basic interior as the standard sedan. Often with no radio, & only one sun visor.
1200 ute, late. Dash is like the 1200 coupe with round instruments. The later the model, the better the interior.
Datsun 1000 ute. Bare bones standard only. Small dash pad [like the '67 model]. Very little interior trim, painted dash with basic 1000 instrument panel.

12. Interior materials? Predominantly steel, plastic & vinyl.

13. Dash styles? See answer 11.

14. Bakelite was not used in these small Datsun models as far as I can tell. Bakelite pretty much went out in the 50's.

15. Factory air in a small Datsun ute? [LOL] Strictly aftermarket stuff in Australia, so the brand names will vary.

Now to the second batch. You want to know about the various steels for hardening purposes?
A. A factory specified grade of mild steel.
B. A factory specified grade of cast iron. [Not soft grey iron.]
C. A factory specified grade of steel. The A series cranks are forgings & are pretty tough.
D. The diff housing will be a factory specified grade of mild steel I believe [Jap rear axle housings]
You will not need to change the hardness of any of these as the factory figured out the right hardness forty years ago.

I would say that in four weeks you have got an awfull lot of help under the circumstances when you consider that some of your posts are very hard to read & make sense of.
If you have a 1000 ute that is bent, then get your panel shop boss to e-mail me & I will send him a factory chassis diagram

This is the best I can do, so I hope it is of some help.

Posted on: 2006/3/9 7:40
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Man mynute289 youre spinning me out.....

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Posted on: 2006/3/9 8:45
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thank you nail has bein drivin


brake fluid spec's is cause goning to upgrade (add a brake booster new m/cyclinder)
this will also let me know if I need to compinsate by adding a bios valve in the rear end

the steel question's also will point to correct gases to use when and in case of welding reguardless of materal

baker lite is still used to day (mitybitofshit) carby's was just one
carby spacer's old school
fuel pump insulator

and I is the only cheif who work's on my car's
in all aspect's that way I stuff it I have fun kickin my own back side

Posted on: 2006/3/9 13:31
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