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#21 Re: How to make a short shifter.
ang94541 Posted on: 2007/6/19 6:51
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ang94541 would you recomend raising the pivot point 1.250"/31.75mm or maybe abit less?

Maybe a bit less.

I've been tying to pay attention to how this shifts. First of all, I have a 1/2, 3/4, 5/R 5spd. The 2 to 3 shift is pretty easy. When I push out of 2nd, the spring that centers your stick in Neutral pushes the stick right in front of 3rd.
Going from 4th to 5th is difficult. You push out of 4th, make sure your centered, then push towards 5/R and push up. With such a short throw it's hard to go "diagonally" from 4th to 5th. It doesn't take much to move too far, past Neutral, and not be able to move sideways.
Remember, only the throw is shortened. The side to side movement does not change.
It's also not a "dog" box. The synchros need some time to do their thing. It seems like my movements are slower to get it to shift correctly. It could also be the condition of my trans.


#22 Re: How to make a short shifter.
benny Posted on: 2007/6/19 7:07
Some wise words there. The short shift wont transform the box into a racer. As mentioned above "the syncros" need time to do there thing.


#23 Re: How to make a short shifter.
ang94541 Posted on: 2007/6/19 7:22
I posted the pic. It's in my folder if it gets bumped.
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#24 Re: How to make a short shifter.
benny Posted on: 2007/6/19 7:27
Now thats a real drawing.... excellent detail.


#25 Re: How to make a short shifter.
sssute Posted on: 2007/7/1 1:39
My shifters are now finished, the pivot point you are talking about, is way to much, im only lifting it be 15mm from the original, and that reduces the throw from 3rd to 4th by about 45mm. Normal throw is about 135mm, and with my shifter its abut 90mm. At this length it is still very easy to use, and you dont have to worry wrong gear selection.
I'll try and get a photo up today.


#26 Re: How to make a short shifter.
sssute Posted on: 2007/7/8 13:40
I finally got the photos up.
This shifter and adapter will fit most Datsun gearboxes, and the shifter can be used on the stumpy box without the adapter.

Scott

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#27 Re: How to make a short shifter.
boofhead Posted on: 2007/7/8 14:28
that looks fantastic !!!! still cant get on your site unfortuately ?? got me stuffed why not ??!!!

how much are these going for ?? and are the sticks the same length as the original ?? aaaannnnnddd .... how's it go without the bend as for gearknob location ?? is it noticably forward of the original location ??

hmmmmm ?? ............. nup no more questions at this point

cheers


#28 Re: How to make a short shifter.
sssute Posted on: 2007/7/8 14:59
Hey Boofhead, dont know why the web site isnt working for you, i havent had any one else with that problem.
As for the shifters, the kit in the pic is $160, and the shfter to suit the stumpy/L series 5 speed are $120.
The length is a bit shorter, but the adapter brings the hight up as well.
I didnt want to put the bend in them, as they can be used in a few different gearboxes, but if someone wants theres bent i can do it. The thread is the standard one, so original gear knob can still be used.
They also have brand new bushes.

Cheers Scott


#29 Re: How to make a short shifter.
reuby_tuesday Posted on: 2007/7/8 17:40
nice work, nice work...


#30 Re: How to make a short shifter.
B210sleeper Posted on: 2007/7/8 22:02
isn't part of the reason the shifter is so long is to make it easier to get your hand over to shift and back to the wheel? shorter shifter will make more time with 1 hand on the wheel...

yeah i know it looks dorky and the passengers tend to have their knee at the 5th gear position...



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