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#31 Re: cost of paiting
phunkdoktaspok Posted on: 2011/1/10 23:42
edp. if you just paint deoxidene on and thats it, you cant expect the best. Using it correctly is another thing.

Im not referring to the coating on replacement panels. Datsun 1000's were dipped from factory - this is what I am referring to D.


#32 Re: cost of paiting
phunkdoktaspok Posted on: 2011/1/10 23:46
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datscrazzzzzy wrote:
so what product u recoment after blasting just a primer or somthing else

Stick to one brand with all your paint products and use what ever that brand requires you to use. Do your research with the paint manufacturer and follow the process they recommend.


#33 Re: cost of paiting
edp Posted on: 2011/1/11 1:52
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so what product u recoment after blasting just a primer or somthing else


a decent 2K epoxy & your good to go. Clean the surface after blasting as well, you never know if you've got oil from the air line on the metal or some contaminant that'll cause problems later. Dawn dish soap works wonders. Dont worry about that kind of surface rust, if your in a room temp place & can blow dry w/an airhose that'll work great. Epoxy holds to bare blasted metal REALLY well!

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edp. if you just paint deoxidene on and thats it, you cant expect the best. Using it correctly is another thing.


I understand that, I'm just trying to point out that its really an unnecessary step that has a lot more negatives associated with its use then positives - IMHO its just not worth it. Guys who know nothing about painting are going to glom onto shortcuts when it does then no good & thats all that stuff is - a shortcut. It has its place, just not underneath a cars paint job.


#34 Re: cost of paiting
datscrazzzzzy Posted on: 2011/1/11 2:20
is this stuff alright or is it one of the ones u were talking about that will rust again
http://www.supercheapauto.com.au/onli ... g.aspx?pid=125307#details


#35 Re: cost of paiting
Campo81 Posted on: 2011/1/11 2:21
Mate they're saying everything will rust again. It will always be there unless you cut it out and replace that section.


#36 Re: cost of paiting
datscrazzzzzy Posted on: 2011/1/11 3:48
yer im talking about the surface rust that im going to get sandblasted back to clean meatal and then seeing what paint to put on after


#37 Re: cost of paiting
D Posted on: 2011/1/11 5:11
Steve- the B10 was made at the Zama truck factory so the metallurgy is
superior to later datsuns not to mention that some of them bound for
Europe where partly galvanised (Belgium models?) which was amazing if true.
There seems to be alot of lead content on the paint used so be careful
guys when sanding away.
Deoxidene or industrial Phosphoric acid is great for rust, providing
some rust in deeper sections if scrubbed well with a wire brush and this
acid, you will be able to really remove most, if not all the rust.
Best if possible is to strip your panels of all paint and undercoat and
get them galvanised or electro zincolumed. I did this to my guards and bonnet.


#38 Re: cost of paiting
edp Posted on: 2011/1/11 6:22
if all you have after blasting is some surface rust, not a big deal. No guarantee even that'll show up & if it does it can be sanded off w/a DA easily. WIll your car be inside? If so should be fine in bare metal. Mine sat in my garage for months as bare steel, no rust appeared.

If you have deep rust or pitting use a wire wheel on a drill & you'll be surprised how much will come out.

Start investigating paints to use, all the majors are going to be expensive, PPG, Dupont, etc.. I assume there are other brands over there that are just as good but less expensive, see if you can find those & as a rule dont use anything from a spray can.


#39 Re: cost of paiting
datscrazzzzzy Posted on: 2011/1/11 6:23
dam wish i new about the lead before i sanded it lol


#40 Re: cost of paiting
datscrazzzzzy Posted on: 2011/1/11 6:26
its coverd in carport but still gets morning due and rust some little bits are pitted but most arent



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