Pigdog, i'd say yes and no. I am passionate also. In the late 80's I ran a dynoed 177hp methanol motor and from memory 123rwhp with alfa lsd, rx3 radiator and bla bla . I sure as hell did not run a dogleg in it, it was a celica box. To me that was not a datto 1200,(actually Datto 1000) but more a hybrid, like a ca motor or rotary etc. Built for a specific purpose. But if you were restoring a 1200 to former glory.The car would retain its value. You would respect your car and treat it right. Know its limits. Perhaps spend 15k-20k on it over a few yrs. You wouldn't then weld spot lights to the roof and take it bush bashing and roo shooting in it and then down the local drags and cane the ass out of it. And I never implied you cant be enthusiastic about a car that performs better than stock. Purpose supercedes everything, then sensibility and then money.And yes a celica box is cheaper and a much better alternative if your running serious hp. But not everyone wants a 12 sec car.........

nickmitty, id say im passionate about 1200s, but i sure as hell wouldn't pay the price people want for A series boxes

at the end of the day if you put a decent amount of torque through them they will break, and you will have a very gearbox that you wont be able to find parts to fix it.
celica box would be a better option if you are going to spend that kinda money and really wanted to keep the A series, and atleast if you break one you can replace it easy.

But then if you are a handy person you can do a CA conversion for a bit more money and have a 5 speed that wont break and a whole lot more power you can put through it.

nothing says you cant be enthusiastic about a car that performs better than stock, sometimes it just means you are being more sensible with how you spend your money on it

I've got a rebuilt 60 series dogleg Marc that I won't be using. Pm me if your interested.

I got my 60L 5spd from weekend1000 very happy with the gearbox and the price :)

Thats a valid point dattodude. But if you want a pedigree, you have to pay the price. 25yrs ago when I had a wrecking yard. I use to put the gx stuff and 5-speeds to the side cause it was worth a fortune then. Now after 2 decades, ive recently got back into the 1200 scene. Ive caught up with Basil form headworks who use to build my methanol motors and another chap who wrecks morris's in Moorabbin. And we had this exact conversation. Well 25yrs ago a gtho was 30k now 200k. Well Morris, Cortina's and Datto's Etc have gone up accordingly aswell. I reckon a 5-speed will be worth 3 times as much in another 20yrs. If your passonate you will pay the price, but if its just a fad and the in-thing, you wont. I always knew i'd one day get back into it. Lucky I had foresight and stock piled.

Lets be honest. Most 1200 owners can't afford a 5 speed box in Australia.

The Morris and speedway boys will always have more money.

Even when I was 21 ..some 17 years ago.. I couldn't afford a 5 speed as is it was 25% the cost of the car.

The cost has now risen to closer to 40% the cost of a car, and it's not like any more 5 speeds have been added to the market.

In 1993 I went CA18DE for my 1200 because it was the same price as going a15 with webers and a 5 speed.

I really doubt there are any a-series 5 speeds 'just lying around' in Australia, and anyone selling them privately will not get the best price.

Yes Clyons8, the add originally asked if 1 is floating around. But I was referring to Orange-1200's reply "I might have one for sale for the right price!! ;)". Well I was under the belief, the more (accurate) information given would Help marc1200 find his box and Help orange-1200 get the right price. Is it a 56 or 60 or 63a ?? rebuild- running or stuffed. This could determine in your mind what a reasonable price could be.A box could be $300 to $1500 depends. Alot of times Ive replied to adds and had no response, but when they leave a number, things just move a bit smoother and quicker. I am not just refering to this add but the adds that have been popping up in general lately.

Nickmitty I don't think he is selling one I think he is wanting buy one.

These classified lately, have turned into a bit of ping pong messaging and riddles. Im curious whats the right price is and a contact number would surely help.

I might have one for sale for the right price!! ;)