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Re: Boksie 3.0 complete rebuild.
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ddgonzal, please feel free to download and post any of my pictures you might need for the wiki. I'll also try spend some time to update some of them into there where applicable.

Ok here's some pictures comparing the two versions of the front bumper.

In this one you can clearly see the corner that come around are much shorter. The bumper also has a lower profile.
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Here's the two corners close up. Big difference. Sarel will be using my old one, but he'll be trimming it to suit what he wants.
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And here's a very cheap, but very effective suspension upgrade everyone with a 1400 bakkie or 1200 car should do. All the 1200's and 1400 bakkies only had a 17mm swaybar in the front. The GX models however, both sedan and Coupè, had 20mm swaybars in front. It's only 3mm thicker, but that translates to a 144% increase in stiffness. Unfortunately the GX swaybars are very few and far between, so an alternative was found. My car of course was a GX so it had the 20mm already. It was found that the 120Y swaybar is a direct bolt in for the 1200 and is also 20mm. The only thing is, when you fit the 120Y bar, you have to put the dip to the bottom, so it's a dip, otherwise you have clearance issues with the sump. The right way around it's perfect. Also when you buy it, get the brackets and rubbers with, becaus it doesn't fit through the normal brackets or rubbers.

Here's some comparison pictures, I picked this one op for Sarel today for R100.

The 120Y on on top of the 1200 one. Either side there's only a small difference in width, if you are familiar with the 1200 the little arms that bolt into the swaybar lean inwards, when you fit the 120Y on they lean slightly outwards, they have rubbers which are more than capable of handling the slight difference.
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Another picture with them side by side, you can see they are the same.
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It's only in profile that they differ slightly, you can see the 120Y one has a dip in it, which should be installed towards the bottom.
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It's a very worth while upgrade and helps a moerse lot with keeping your car stable under cornering, it even helps in the straights when you hit bumps and/or dips. Sarel alredy fitted the one I got for him tonight, and he says the bakkie feels much better. He can fill in some here if he wants.
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Posted on: 2011/7/26 21:36
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Re: Boksie 3.0 complete rebuild.
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120y swaybar is an old known trick but it's always good to refresh us. He'll half the mids we learn have usually been nutted out before nut it feels good to work it out yourself.

Great work. Keep it up

Posted on: 2011/7/26 22:03
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Re: Boksie 3.0 complete rebuild.
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LOL, ya didn't really figure it out ourselves, that's why I said, "It was found that the 120Y swaybar is a direct bolt in for the 1200 and is also 20mm."

The information was read right here on the 1200 forum. I must stress that I post more frequently on another local ZA forum, and mostly copy/paste the posts directly onto here without much editing. All credit is always given to the Datsun 1200 forum though, except where I really did figure it out myself...hehehe

I actually made that post here mostly because the pictures in the Wiki is a little scarce on exactly what the differences between the two swaybars are. I'll soon add the info and pictures to the Wiki so it's more informational to anyone looking at this swap.

Anyway, I try to do a good job and strive to get to the level of professionalism some of the other members on here display in their handy work.

Posted on: 2011/7/26 22:15
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Re: Boksie 3.0 complete rebuild.
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Best writeup regarding the swaybar.

The later ZA 1200s were equipped with Datsun 510 bumpers. Any ideas why they did that? Maybe they leftovers from 510 production.

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Re: Boksie 3.0 complete rebuild.
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I heard that it had something to do with safety and the bumpers not sticking out far enough to prevent anyone/thing touching the actual if there was a small crash. The earlier models had the smaller bumpers, but from about 73/4 they changed all of them to the "510" ones.

However the possibility is good that they are 510 ones and that they were just made narrower to fit the 1200. These models were built locally, so they probably figured it was more economical to stamp out just one type and use it for all the cars.

Posted on: 2011/7/26 22:32
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Re: Boksie 3.0 complete rebuild.
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Boksie is coming along very nicely! I love the colour, it's gunna look awesome once you bolt it all together again.
Keep up the great work and informative posts!

Posted on: 2011/7/26 23:41
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510 ones are the same width, but the sides go back farther. After I saw the ZA brochure, the next time I saw a 510 I measured them.

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Hey kululadotgroen Car looks awesome in its new colour .Great find with that grille,its also hard to comeby here too.so the 120y sway bar is not a straight bold on I'd like to do that with mine.

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so the 120y sway bar is not a straight bold on

The B210 swaybar is a straight bolt-on for the B110 or ute/bakkie/pickup. Bar and bushings are a set.

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Re: Boksie 3.0 complete rebuild.
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As ddgonzal said, the 120Y is a straight bolt on. You only need to also get the 120Y brackets and rubber bushings. The minor differences there are in the bars is not a problem. The pushrods that operate the swaybar is more than capable to take up the small difference in width.

Posted on: 2011/7/27 6:39
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