Thanks again Louix!

Dont mean to be rude but I have been to to of the engineers work shops and both told me the same thing nothings has changed as of yet and prob never will I would rather listen to these guys cause thus is what they do for a living. So best way to find out I have had is not ring then go see the engineer face to face goes along way.
Thanks guys

i dont mean to be rude wither as all this info for engineers is easily available off the web site or by calling rta.... they fax or reffer you to web site pages.... its not rocket science just takes time.

Last time I went into the rta for rego I asked the lady n she had no clue, so I asked the duty manager if he could find out while I wait, he had no idea about rules changing, no one knows anything until the last minute