I weighed the A10 not long ago bare no flywheel, starter manifolds, alternator etc. it came to 60kg on the buzzer. If the CR14de bare is around 50kg bare theres a minimum of 10kg difference in savings. Yet its 400cc larger so its quite a performance gain even with heavier gearbox.
Here`s a similar project for Ga16de w/ similar starter issue yet in the fairlady someone used the CA box for success?
http://www.datman.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=5102

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It looks close to the same. Although marginally smaller in size. It is the distance between the solonoid and the block that needs to be cleared.

does this starter have more clearance.. The Bay..

If you are going CG it doesnt matter, but was just pointing out a cheap laser or water jet 12mm thick piece of steel can be had as used similar Kent motors, holdens, ca18de and even some pinto. The engines mentioned suffer at high rpm from the non counterweighed cranks for starters yet all are like the A series and the CR where they have no skirt.

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The problem D is that like before, I do want to compare simular blocks. The 2 motors only really share the alloy nature of their construction. The main point is the crank centerline. The bloc extends down about 100mm past it and with the caps being almost machined along with it makes it much easier for a crank girkle made of 4140 or simular quite easy to make as you don't need to modify the cap.




The CR on the other hand, the crank centerline is the base of the block, and I would have to mill a massive amount off the caps, meaning once I seperate the cast girdle I will then need to dowell the caps to the block and then make a new girdle all for the sake of a few mm. Far too much wor for too little reward. Not to mention time. I would never get around to it.

For now, the next thing is to do is get it into the thou and see if I have enough clearence, as Mopar has pointed out to me it is the front of the cam cover that is going to give me grief, I may need to push the motor back a bit. Also I've got some 12 point nuts with reduced flanges coming, hopefully they will clear the webbing once I mill out the center bolts to get some depth. But I will leave them out for the install. There is no point going crazy if I don't end up using a CR. I still want to test out the CG. I think it will most likely be a better option.

Don can the main caps be chopped shorter using arp studs to suit and use a steel laser or waterjet ladder brace instead? Im not sure on the counterweights how far they swing but this is what suzuki engines use to strengthen them further. The more I look at the pics it seems the CR casting its a solidly strong unit.

The pics below show an example of what I mean maybe could even use another sump with the last pic.

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That just goes to show the potential of these motors doesn't it. That's basically 92 hp at the wheels. Minor mods. That means a few more are available. Can you give me some more info on any other mods to it. Like exhaust etc.

Maybe, but still, where there's a will there's a way! Your doing it hey

It must have been a CG13DE in a K11 Micra. Tomei don't do cams for the CR yet. The K11 has a huge following in Japan.

Man and had tomie cams and camgears
IT went in with 39kw came out 68kw