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#1 A10 versus A12 Dyno Sheet comparo
ddgonzal Posted on: 2012/5/14 7:32
Factory B10 dyno chart with factory A12 lines superimposed

It seems the A12 betters it at all RPMs. What advantage does the little A10 have?

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#2 Re: A10 versus A12 Dyno Sheet comparo
bakat Posted on: 2012/5/14 7:44
what about engine weight? a12 vs a10...


#3 Re: A10 versus A12 Dyno Sheet comparo
ddgonzal Posted on: 2012/5/14 7:52
D will know the answer to that -- calling D!


#4 Re: A10 versus A12 Dyno Sheet comparo
Stock1200Ute1 Posted on: 2012/5/14 9:53
The A10 works great for going slow? haha. I would love to see a heavily worked a10,would be pretty awesome to see!


#5 Re: A10 versus A12 Dyno Sheet comparo
greendog Posted on: 2012/5/14 10:05
economy


#6 Re: A10 versus A12 Dyno Sheet comparo
a12datto120y Posted on: 2012/5/14 10:31
is this rwhp or flywheel horsepower?


#7 Re: A10 versus A12 Dyno Sheet comparo
DatsAmore Posted on: 2012/5/14 11:22
Greendog's right, economy is the only advantage. But really it's all about one thing: pedigree! Kinda like having a Sloper and replacing the flathead with a Boss 302... Sure the Boss will go harder, but it's just not quite "correct"!


#8 Re: A10 versus A12 Dyno Sheet comparo
D Posted on: 2012/5/14 13:14
You guys answered it all almost!
The kb10 is at 66hp its only 2hp off the a12 as a single carb setup.
An A12gx vs A10gx might be interesting both with oval port heads! :)

Although 10kg doesnt sound like much when you compare power to weight
of the single carb A10 from a KB10 vs the A12 then the A10 might win.

I personally prefer the A12 w/ 3.9 in my 1000 by along shot though :)
However my coupe with the A10 is a different experience than the VB10
its feels more sporty as you have to revv it more so requires a diff
driving style yet economy is incredible probably another 20% better.

A12 with 76mm bores cant go wrong though!

Id be more interested in comparing the most rare of all the A series egines

The A13 long and short stroke versions if they exist from past threads

eg
1289cc 77mm stroke and 73mm bores
vs
1270cc 70mm stroke and 76mm bores


#9 Re: A10 versus A12 Dyno Sheet comparo
ddgonzal Posted on: 2012/5/14 17:19
Quote:
is this rwhp or flywheel horsepower?


Factory HP is always flywheel HP.


#10 Re: A10 versus A12 Dyno Sheet comparo
bakat Posted on: 2012/5/14 18:13
Quote:

D wrote:
You guys answered it all almost!
The kb10 is at 66hp its only 2hp off the a12 as a single carb setup.
An A12gx vs A10gx might be interesting both with oval port heads! :)

Although 10kg doesnt sound like much when you compare power to weight
of the single carb A10 from a KB10 vs the A12 then the A10 might win.

I personally prefer the A12 w/ 3.9 in my 1000 by along shot though :)
However my coupe with the A10 is a different experience than the VB10
its feels more sporty as you have to revv it more so requires a diff
driving style yet economy is incredible probably another 20% better.

A12 with 76mm bores cant go wrong though!

Id be more interested in comparing the most rare of all the A series egines

The A13 long and short stroke versions if they exist from past threads

eg
1289cc 77mm stroke and 73mm bores
vs
1270cc 70mm stroke and 76mm bores


you've mentioned 76mm bored A12. even my 75mm bored A12A in stock condition have considerably more torque than stock A12. put a H89 and the engine is happier to rev.



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