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#11 Re: cheap strong diff for 1200 ute project
tomtom141 Posted on: 2014/2/5 11:01
So everyone thinks I should change the diff to either a Borg or a hilux diff?


#12 Re: cheap strong diff for 1200 ute project
ANGE Posted on: 2014/2/5 12:28
i like how you say a 400hp n/a 13b is 'nothing crazy'
the ute diff should hold it, but if you want an lsd they can be pretty expensive for the h165

if you have to shorten a housing i'd go for the hilux because they are very common, have decent factory
lsd's and you can get just about any ratio that you can dream of


#13 Re: cheap strong diff for 1200 ute project
D Posted on: 2014/2/5 13:44
Hilux are a top choice but once you shorten them,
leaf spring mounts to suit right stud pattern mods
is 2000+aud depending on purchase price and place
doing the work for you or doing it yourself.

Bluey H190 un-shortened + Jap H190 LSD is better
as Rotary peeps bust the strong 177.5mm & inch
mazda rotary diffs and go for hilux or 9 inch.

Rotary diffs with 4.875 centres are stronger than H165
metallurgy/quality is Nissan-like but not up to turbo 13b
torque or abuse for long before they give up the ghost.

I can get the LSD units to fit the H190 bluebird which has
correct stud pattern 4 x 114.3mm & bluey diffs are cheap
and 1450mm vs 1305mm for H165 so no shortening required
if you have the right offset wheels 40-45mm is nothing.

So un-shortened bluey diff $120 at most wreckers like pickapart
and LSD unit 950 from Japan & modded mounts around 1300 total.
Alloy carrier option also available for H190 for lightweight.

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H145 5.71 ~100 lb. ft.
H150 5.91 ~125 lb. ft.
H165 6.50 ~225 lb. ft.
H190 7.49 ~285 lb. ft.
R200 7.88 ~300 lb. ft.


#14 Re: cheap strong diff for 1200 ute project
ddgonzal Posted on: 2014/2/5 17:55
Hilux has the wrong stud bolt pattern.

Since you will be running a non-turbo rotary, just use the stock ute diff. Re-drill the axle bolt pattern or get different wheels. Get a Topgear LSD or a TRD LSD but but unless you are drag racing it isn't really needed.


#15 Re: cheap strong diff for 1200 ute project
tomtom141 Posted on: 2014/2/5 20:38
Love waking up to a heap of info haha.
Don't think I've put enough info down before. My Ute has had the chassis rails narrowed and notched. I will be running 20 x 10 inch wheels, 4 link kit and a full air bag kit. So yes I am airbagging her.
There for I know no matter what diff I get I will need to shorten and leaf springs are no issue due to not having or needing them.


#16 Re: cheap strong diff for 1200 ute project
loosekid Posted on: 2014/2/6 0:33
borgwarner...

good for BIG - hp with my billet axels and 4.11 ratio

just as easy to get your hand's on as the hilux diff but has the benifit of that you can just buy a mcdonalds racing or some 4link kit and it will fit easy just weld

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#17 Re: cheap strong diff for 1200 ute project
ddgonzal Posted on: 2014/2/6 0:37
That looks like a BW78 which is


#18 Re: cheap strong diff for 1200 ute project
loosekid Posted on: 2014/2/6 0:52
it may certainly be a BW78 i have not checked the i'd tag on it in a while

i got it from a holden/GM

28mm billet axels.. 4.11 ratio.. LSD


#19 Re: cheap strong diff for 1200 ute project
tomtom141 Posted on: 2014/2/6 2:27
Loving the shaved tail gate loose kid ;)
Ok so a borgwarner diff it is. What car did they come in mainly? I will take a trip to the old wreckers this afternoon!!!


#20 Re: cheap strong diff for 1200 ute project
ddgonzal Posted on: 2014/2/6 3:43
A BW78 is a 9-bolt, not 9".



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