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Re: need help regarding Turbocharging A12
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[quote="Dragongoose"]Sorry guys, I still prefer the suck through carby setup...the standard mechanical fuel pump which should handle it real well. Power with a t25 garrett should be around 180 Hp at the fly wheel on conservative boost say 8-12 pounds...don't need a Blow off valve as there is no throttle body in the way. So simple effective and practical, and it looks real cool seeing the carbys hanging off the turbo inlet. Better than looking at a box.


having done this I've got to agree with what Allan. Draw through is a much simpler system. I used the standard mechanical pump with no problems and ran 8 to 11 pound boost. There's no hassles with fuel pressure or sealing the carb. The only drawback is that you can't really intercool it. I simply used a 32/36 Weber and plumbed it into the top of the Weber adapter on the inlet manifold. And I used a 'J' pipe from the standard exhaust manifold.

The beauty of this simple system, although there was heaps of room for development and more bhp, was that you could convert it from turbo to NA (or vice-versa) in a matter of about 45 minutes! The ultimate Saturday night special. Just need a spare exhaust pipe to bolt in between the manifold and the collector, removing the 'J' pipe from the manifold and the dump pipe from the exhaust system at a flange at the beginning of the floorpan. Then move the carb from in front of the turbo back to the inlet manifold.

I never ran it on the quarter or a dyno, but based on how it blew my 150-160, 14.6 second L18 coupe away, it would have to be producing about 180hp, and run high 13's.

Still have the complete system on a bench in the shed, but the turbo is shagged. One day it will live again...

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Re: need help regarding Turbocharging A12
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Just to add my extra 2 cents!
A map sensor doesn't get affected by this!
And yes air flow sensor will not read the air if it is released to atmosphere but all it will do is cause the engine to run rich for a few seconds after each gear change!

That is all!
Cheers Steve!

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Re: need help regarding Turbocharging A12
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please make sure you take some pics for all of us at Datsun1200.com to take a look at!

I am very keen to see this setup and see how well it actually works!

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Re: need help regarding Turbocharging A12
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ok, i agree with u on this.
though i will use the system i described above on A12 when i start the project. as there r no MAP Sensors or Air Flow Sensor Plates in an A12
barpk

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Re: need help regarding Turbocharging A12
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Barpk you maybe want to check the pic I just posted under " Plumb back BOV"

Cheers,
Steve!

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most of OE cars with a BOV but without its whistle(or hsssshhhh) sound have this loop system. that sound goes back into the.......u know what i mean.
barpk

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Re: need help regarding Turbocharging A12
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Mate the PM is because I don't feel everyone else needs to see it that is why!
( Why should I repeat myself in front of everyone when it is you that I have to keep repeating myself for? ( why? )

Now that you have started explaining yourself clearer I start to understand what you are saying!
Never seen this setup!
Don't know If it exsists but would love to see some pics of if!

And pls don't say I am wrong as everything I said is correct! and If you had bothered to read it correctly you would have noticed that i was talking about it going back into the compressor inlet!
If I was wrong from the start you should have explained this so there would not have to be as may posts!!!!!!!

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Re: need help regarding Turbocharging A12
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Dickhead!
No #### if it is going back to the inlet as I said obviously it isn't still compressed!
Wanker

firstly whats the point of this ####ty PM to me! u shy about saying things upfront, or u expect me to b afraid or what...hehehe.

secondly u r TOTALLY wrong about what u r saying, learn or zip your lips.
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phunkdoktaspok wrote:
We are talking BOV ( i know I am! are you?)

Air has to go in the inlet of the turbo ( the compressor )
then through the engine then through the exhaust manifold to the turbine wheel then out the exhaust!

a turbo has 2 wheels, one TURBINE second COMPRESSOR, extra air from BOV goes DIRECTLY INTO THE TURBINE WHEEL not compressor wheel. Einstein.
and it does not get re-compressed it goes out via exhaust.
barpk

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Re: need help regarding Turbocharging A12
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Barpk step back and think about what you are going to write before you write it!
Also read exactly what others have written!

" this air is going to get out via the exhaust as soon as it passes the turbine wheel"
I think this makes no sense mate!

We are talking BOV ( i know I am! are you?)

Air has to go in the inlet of the turbo ( the compressor )
then through the engine then through the exhaust manifold to the turbine wheel then out the exhaust!

Please come back when you understand the principals of how an engine operates!
Then you can say this is how it works!
Otherwise ask how an engine works then you will start to learn!


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go_the_datto wrote:
when manifold pressure goes above 5 psi the fuel pressure goes straight up to 14 psi.I


can u tell me from which car u have taken out the fuel pump? is it EFI or carb setup?
does the extra fuel goes back into fuel tank or not(loop)?
i have read that any normal fuel regulator can b made adjustable fewe modifications. what do u think of this?
barpk

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