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Re: DIY alternator battery charger setup
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Reuby, pretty sure I have something suitable to donate to the cause

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Re: DIY alternator battery charger setup
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Thanks DD
Didn't think of the extra power that the 120 amp unit would need. besides, it would be a waste. Its worth $300.

It looks like weekend1000 has an alternator for me. Ill be dropping round this arvo to raid his stash.

Just need the new electric motor. Im thinking about a 1hp should be fine.

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Re: DIY alternator battery charger setup
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Motor Shaft Power = Volts x Amps x 2 in Watts
(the 2 is because the setup will be about 50% efficient)

Hope that helps.

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Thanks for that lamb_d

so by that reckoning
12 volts x 50 amp alternator x 2 (efficiency loss) = 1200 motor shaft power.

So then i need to find a motor that has 1200 watts or 1.6hp at the shaft (according to the link below).

http://www.rapidtables.com/convert/power/watt-to-hp.htm

Most electrical motors are rated by their input i think(eg 2hp) rather than their rated output.

Ill call an electrical motor shop tommrrow and ask them.

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Figure 15V instead of 12V. Charging voltage is 14-15 volts. Even more at freezing temps.

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If you're using an AC induction motor (like what's on most air compressors) you can over size it and it wont matter. Most small induction motors are around the 75-85% efficient mark. In fact, an air compressor motor would probably be about right size.

A few other things things to consider,

-an AC motor in Aus will do just shy of 3000rpm (single pole) 1500rpm (two poles) or 750rpm if you get a 4 pole motor. It'll say on the nameplate what rpm it is at 50Hz.
-Most alternators have a cut in speed of about 1500rpm (i.e. 2x idle speed).

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An AC induction motor is what i am chasing.

Looking at new prices for a 2hp from a local shop
http://www.machineryhouse.com.au/Sear ... ter=Category&FilterID=378

a 2hp unit at 2800rpm is about $250 new.

Thats far too pricey for this project. Ill keep scrounging about for a 2hp motor from somewhere. Im sure a working second hand unit will turn up. The 1/4hp 1440rpm unit I have was free from my local machinist. he fished it out from an old dusty box of spares.
I actually have an old 3 phase motor from my hoist that is collecting dust. Its a pity I cant use it.

Soooo..... any perthites have a dead compressor with a 2hp motor on it?

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You can actually run a 3 phase motor off single phase, it's a little rough and you only get 1/3 to 1/2 of the power but it works.

Less stuffing round if you can get a single phase motor though.

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by lamb_daiquiri on 2015/4/9 17:14:28

You can actually run a 3 phase motor off single phase, it's a little rough and you only get 1/3 to 1/2 of the power but it works.

Less stuffing round if you can get a single phase motor though.


So to get about 2hp, i would need about 5-6hp in three phase. Ill check the name plate on the motor, but i doubt its that big. It was only to run my car hoist and all it did was turn the hydraulic pump, which is low volume, high pressure I imagine = low motor power needed.

Ill keep fishing for s single phase unit. im not enough of an electrician to be rewiring a three phase motor to single phase.

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