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#11
Re: DIY alternator battery charger setup
Weekend1000
Posted on: 2015/3/30 13:17
Reuby, pretty sure I have something suitable to donate to the cause
#12
Re: DIY alternator battery charger setup
reuby_tuesday
Posted on: 2015/3/31 4:22
Thanks DD
Didn't think of the extra power that the 120 amp unit would need. besides, it would be a waste. Its worth $300. It looks like weekend1000 has an alternator for me. Ill be dropping round this arvo to raid his stash. Just need the new electric motor. Im thinking about a 1hp should be fine.
#13
Re: DIY alternator battery charger setup
lamb_daiquiri
Posted on: 2015/3/31 9:49
Motor Shaft Power = Volts x Amps x 2 in Watts
(the 2 is because the setup will be about 50% efficient) Hope that helps.
#14
Re: DIY alternator battery charger setup
reuby_tuesday
Posted on: 2015/4/7 13:56
Thanks for that lamb_d
so by that reckoning 12 volts x 50 amp alternator x 2 (efficiency loss) = 1200 motor shaft power. So then i need to find a motor that has 1200 watts or 1.6hp at the shaft (according to the link below). http://www.rapidtables.com/convert/power/watt-to-hp.htm Most electrical motors are rated by their input i think(eg 2hp) rather than their rated output. Ill call an electrical motor shop tommrrow and ask them. cheers
#15
Re: DIY alternator battery charger setup
ddgonzal
Posted on: 2015/4/7 20:44
Figure 15V instead of 12V. Charging voltage is 14-15 volts. Even more at freezing temps.
#16
Re: DIY alternator battery charger setup
lamb_daiquiri
Posted on: 2015/4/8 9:57
If you're using an AC induction motor (like what's on most air compressors) you can over size it and it wont matter. Most small induction motors are around the 75-85% efficient mark. In fact, an air compressor motor would probably be about right size.
A few other things things to consider, -an AC motor in Aus will do just shy of 3000rpm (single pole) 1500rpm (two poles) or 750rpm if you get a 4 pole motor. It'll say on the nameplate what rpm it is at 50Hz. -Most alternators have a cut in speed of about 1500rpm (i.e. 2x idle speed).
#17
Re: DIY alternator battery charger setup
reuby_tuesday
Posted on: 2015/4/8 13:46
An AC induction motor is what i am chasing.
Looking at new prices for a 2hp from a local shop http://www.machineryhouse.com.au/Sear ... ter=Category&FilterID=378 a 2hp unit at 2800rpm is about $250 new. Thats far too pricey for this project. Ill keep scrounging about for a 2hp motor from somewhere. Im sure a working second hand unit will turn up. The 1/4hp 1440rpm unit I have was free from my local machinist. he fished it out from an old dusty box of spares. I actually have an old 3 phase motor from my hoist that is collecting dust. Its a pity I cant use it. Soooo..... any perthites have a dead compressor with a 2hp motor on it?
#18
Re: DIY alternator battery charger setup
lamb_daiquiri
Posted on: 2015/4/9 9:14
You can actually run a 3 phase motor off single phase, it's a little rough and you only get 1/3 to 1/2 of the power but it works.
Less stuffing round if you can get a single phase motor though.
#20
Re: DIY alternator battery charger setup
reuby_tuesday
Posted on: 2015/4/9 14:58
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by lamb_daiquiri on 2015/4/9 17:14:28 So to get about 2hp, i would need about 5-6hp in three phase. Ill check the name plate on the motor, but i doubt its that big. It was only to run my car hoist and all it did was turn the hydraulic pump, which is low volume, high pressure I imagine = low motor power needed. Ill keep fishing for s single phase unit. im not enough of an electrician to be rewiring a three phase motor to single phase. You can view topic.
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