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Hi Morgan,
You are starting to get past my limited level of knowledge with gearboxes.
What I can tell you is the cluster is one piece, and the gears slide off the other shaft.
Cheers
Dave

Suzuki Vitara boxes are bullet proof, Sierra/jimny like 60 series
yet smoother changes, common & parts galore OTS ease of rebuilds etc

still would love to fit this in for sequential madness
http://www.ebay.com/itm/99-00-01-02-0 ... :~08AAOSw5VFWHRyq&vxp=mtr

How is the bettany countershaft made? Did they make a new shaft and are the gears splined or keyed onto the shaft?

Hi,
Sorry I don't but will endeavour to find out and let you know before its put back together.
What I can say is they are very good- especially the first 4. The car absolutely rockets off the line whereas my ultra close 56A 5spd had a huge 1st gear and was really all about 2nd/3rd/4th and 5th this one is all about the 1st 4 gears with a bit of ( but perfectably acceptable ) gap between 4th and 5th- probably what you would describe as more of a rally box.
Cheers
Dave

Dave - what are the ratios of Bettany gears 60A kit?

Hey D Suzuki boxes mmmm. Are they strong enough ??

Hi Tom,
I have just had a new cluster made here in NZ by a business in Wellington - Bettany Gears for my 60A 5 speed.
This cluster included 2 helical cut gears and 2 straight cut ones. Total cost NZD 1451 including GST
This guy may well be a very viable option for you. He is the man who Reg Cook used to make all his gear kits and has a wealth of knowledge.
Also with the NZD pooing itself against the USD at present its got to be a sharp deal for you.
Contact number (04) 2985-683. Unfortunately it appears no website- I suspect this guy is very old school...
Cheers
Dave

a12grunt has a good point, power to weight 12-15kg is a big difference
when you consider how light 1200 and 1000 cars can be made however for
anything bigger it makes little difference if not better weight balance.

Suzuki sierra jimny boxes are also another option for lightweight boxes
with strong simple design but close ratio sets are only an option if made
in that place in Argentina (german mob) there that supplies euro teams
for 1000usd a complete 5 speed setup but they only do phone call business

I have been watching that one. I also inherited a 60 series box which if I can find someone to make a custom second gear will have ratios that equate to a mid-close box. I have the U/C 4 speed in the car now, my first event of the years is in 3 weeks so we shall see how much difference the change from mid to ultra close makes. I still gravitate towards using a more modern box but in talks with my fabricator but the price is a wash.

Tom