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Ford F250 rockers
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Does anybody know what year model and what size engine fits the A14 engine please?

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It's the Ford 250 engine rather than the Ford F250 vehicle

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wikipedia: Officially dubbed the Thriftpower Six, this engine line is sometimes referred to as the Falcon Six.


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Ford rockers off the earlier 250's have a 1.6:1 ratio and can be resized to fit the datsun rocker shaft.

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I have a set here and they look to be a waste of time. They don't have any appreciable ratio increase over the factory rockers and also the adjuster nut tapered with no locknut and the ball is too large for A series pushrods.

I'm sure they can be made to work but really just get a cam with some more lift. If you are chasing 10/10ths you'd be better off with some aftermarket roller rockers.

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There are two variations:
* 1.50 ratio
* 1.60 ratio

The 1.50 is not a large increase over the A-series 1.44. The 1.6 is fully adjustable

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I thought the 1.6 rockers are aftermarket replacement only?

Mine look exactly as pictured above.

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Some say 1.6 was a stock offering. I dunno. Been a long time since I messed about with a Falcon Six. Put many miles on a 1979 Fairmont, but it had hydraulic lifters

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just get a cam with some more lift
YES

The problem is many cams have less lift than stock. The more expensive ones have greater lift. Can't get additional lift out of regrinds unless they first build up the lobes, adding considerably to the cost, or using a NEW cam blank
* Stock A12 8mm lift (.315 inch)
* Stock GX 8.4 mm lift (.331 inch)
* JUN 74 6.5 to 7.2 lift
* Isky DB-88 .297 lift
* Isky DB-99 .338 lift
* JTS 104CB .409/.408
* JTS 140-6 .430/.432
* Wade Cams: .379 to .470

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If you are chasing 10/10ths you'd be better off with some aftermarket roller rockers.
Yes indeed. Rollers are good for fractional improvement due to reduced friction. High lift is good for major changes. The modern cam profile has fast-open, fast-close, high lift profile and doesn't rely on duration change only like those cheap regrinds

Lastly, if you are going to use 1.6 rockers, tell your cam grinder so they can choose an appropriate profile. Whether or not 1.6 works well with a stock cam is unknown -- you can try it and let us know after 20,000 miles if the cam, valve stem ends or valve guides are worn

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just get a cam with some more lift
YES

The problem is many cams have less lift than stock. The more expensive ones have greater lift. Can't get additional lift out of regrinds unless they first build up the lobes, adding considerably to the cost, or using a NEW cam blank
* Stock A12 8mm lift (.315 inch)
* Stock GX 8.4 mm lift (.331 inch)
* JUN 74 6.5 to 7.2 lift
* Isky DB-88 .297 lift
* Isky DB-99 .338 lift
* JTS 104CB .409/.408
* JTS 140-6 .430/.432
* Wade Cams: .379 to .470


Not true! I have personally reground many factory A series cams to high lift (even the NISMO profiles) without issue. You just reduce the base circle diameter (often smaller than the original cam core) and then machine the core to a smaller diameter.

You are right about a lot of profiles having lower lift than stock though, mainly due to a lot of cam grinder's having no ability to make new profiles (they just use what masters they have and most of the time these are 30 years old).

I'll be producing some top end cams with modern polynomial designs and CNC ground for the A series soon.

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I'll be producing some top end cams with modern polynomial designs and CNC ground for the A series soon.


How soon?

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Hey guys.
Thanks. I rally appreciate the feedback.

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Will you be regrinding old cams or producing brand new ones? It's better to avoid reducing the base circle too much as it increases the loads on the cam surface/ shortens cam/ lifter life.

Sounds like you've got all the gear to make new cams from some nice 4140 round stock, nitride them after finishing and they'll last a very long time. I was very impressed with the wear life of the nitrided 4140 gear I had made for a prototype at work. No good for my application though because it needs lubrication otherwise it'll destroy the mating part! (In this case a ss304 gear with 14x the number of teeth).

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