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Re: Performance / upgrades for A13
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GX headers are usually unobtanium for most hence the smaller vanette alternative which is bigger than A12 stocky.

SUs are hard to beat when well setup for price performance and still used throughout the world for even the new Opcom units

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simple powerups on NAs usually aim for at least vanette rather than GX headers
Are you talking about the exhaust manifold, or do you mean tubular exhaust headers? How is the Vanette part different from other exhaust?

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Gx outlets have more total area than the vanette 1 3/4 in single outlet.

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Superchargers produce a fair bit of heat if the manifold to the ports is restrictive but the Rowland for 180aud is worth the investment. The exhaust also gets a bit restrictive to expel the hot gases and a reason simple powerups on NAs usually aim for at least vanette rather than GX headers.

The rowland manifold makes mounting the supercharger easier and has a better larger inlet to match the sc14 than the stock little stocky.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvyrWGEC1Ss

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parts are easy to find just google them toyota sc14
or what the minis are using are late bmw mini units

The difference is the torque, its there early no waiting

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5-speeds are common in USA, cheaper than anywhere else in the world except South Africa. There's alway one for sale on eBay ... eBay: Datsun 210 5 speed transmission, there one right now for sale. But it won't make your car faster. For highest top speed you'll have to put it in fourth

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i'm a computer geek, not a mechanical geek... I have my limits and that is clearly beyond what I can do lol

I should be getting a decent settlement at the end of the year, so I think i'll just keep researching what-ifs and such while i wait. I'm still a little gun shy about doing a full swap, as it just FEELS like a massive money sink in the long run, but who knows, might be an easy fix to all my wants/needs.

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If you choose a supercharger with stock everything else I wouldn't bother changing the intake or exhaust manifolds. The volume flow rate in the manifolds wont change much, just the density of the air.

With a supercharger you have a positive pressure gradient across the intake and exhaust under full throttle so headers/ extractors won't gain you much if anything (again, assuming everything else is stock).

If you're interested in a turbo option there's a good thread going on at the moment that's worth a read. "http://datsun1200.com/modules/newbb/v ... ype=&mode=0&start=0"

There are many options for more power, my unproven opinion is that a turbo setup is probably the best bang for buck.

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The Weber carburetor only helps if you rev the engine up. Below 4000 RPM it won't make any difference.

The key is to rev up the engine. That's why a 5-speed won't give you quicker acceleration, nor will it give a higher top speed. It only reduces the revs for quieter more fuel efficient highway driving

Yes, an electronic distributor is an "electronic ignition system". All California B310 had them starting in 1975. They don't make more HP, but they keep the spark in perfect spec year after year (with a points-type ignition you have to check and/or adjust the dwell every 3 months)

"small cam & lifters" -- The stock cam makes maximum power at 6000 RPM, so if you want to make maximum power at a lower RPM obtain an "RV" cam as they call them here in USA. Any time you change the cam, new lifters (or refaced lifters) are required

"set of extractors" means an exhaust header. See our Headers tech article. It won't make your car accelerate faster, but it will sound faster

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Okay... so there are simi-inexpensive ways to boost the performance of this engine!! Good stuff!! :)

First off-
B310gx: nope... only got the 4 speed manual on this girl. I would LOOOVEEEE to get a 5 speed, but those are super rare here in the states (rare as in I have been searching for the past year and a half and not seen or heard of one for sale). If anyone knows of someone or is looking to get rid of their 5 speed please send me a message, i'd be more than happy to talk about it :)

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So... with this setup
Sc14 supercharger $300aud
SU carb 1.75 $90aud
Rowland manifold $180aud
stainless headers $180aud
adaptor plate for mani to supercharger
$150
total for parts 900aud + tuning
depending on A12 or A16 capacity 90-120kws

I'm lookin at about $675 USD + tuning That's totally reasonable, but... and it's a biggggg but (ask Becky) I have no idea where to get those parts, I did a quick search on a few of them but nothing coming back solid from what I can see.

I have a pretty bad ass mechanic that I can go to, but I'd love to at least have an idea of where/how to get those parts, and make sure they're the correct ones.

Do you have links/part numbers for them? You had prices for all of them so I'm assuming that you know where to get them?


In response to Ddgonzal's post

* $100 a small cam (and new lifters)
* $400 a downdraught weber carby
* $225 a set of extractors
* $125 an electronic ignition
That's only $850. If you buy them used (except the cam) you can get all that for about $325

I actually found a Weber carb around that price that says it's compatible with my engine, so that's a plus.
I've already upgraded to an electronic distrib (i'm assuming that's what you meant by the ignition)
On to the "small cam & lifters" and the "set of extractors" - No idea where/how to find or even search for those items. Any links?


I'd like to bring a part's list of those two setups to my mechanic and see what he thinks. If it's something that's a good idea, then I'll go for it. It'll save me the trouble of having to source out a full drive train and everything else to go with a engine swap.

Thanks for the responses guys! I really appreciate it!!

-Tolk

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Sc14 supercharger $300aud
SU carb 1.75 $90aud
Rowland manifold $180aud
stainless headers $180aud
adaptor plate for mani to supercharger
$150
total for parts 900aud + tuning
depending on A12 or A16 capacity 90-120kws

Posted on: 2016/3/25 1:11
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