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#11
Re: Cheapest bang for bucks for A12 without engineering
ddgonzal
Posted on: 2016/8/18 2:26
A properly adjusted stock A12 will idle at 500 rpm, and shifting at 20kph into 2nd is no problem. It will also take off from 2nd gear no problem ...
Do German cars need modification to do all that?
#12
Re: Cheapest bang for bucks for A12 without engineering
D
Posted on: 2016/8/18 5:35
umm lets see any engine can idle at 500rpm and shift at 20kph into 2nd but
an A12 will not run a car from 4th from 2nd at 500rpm idle with no throttling and will not start without accelerating and pull away at 500rpm with just turning the ignition switch in 2nd gear... it will die on its face in both cases
#13
Re: Cheapest bang for bucks for A12 without engineering
Mattndew76
Posted on: 2016/8/19 22:50
Time to research the principals behind Somenders theories.
This looks super impressive.
#14
Re: Cheapest bang for bucks for A12 without engineering
D
Posted on: 2016/8/20 1:38
Definitely worth investigating also wondering if the size of the piston is important as success so far is on bores below 83mm.
Also a rotary valve head that actually works and made in Australia Mildura very simple no cooling issues or need for water in head just 2 shafts running off a belt or chain no complex inlet manifold, efi or exhaust mani required amazing!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0TkP18gZRE
#15
Re: Cheapest bang for bucks for A12 without engineering
Mattndew76
Posted on: 2016/8/20 20:35
I want to find where to get the ceramic bearing surfaces. I know you can get 75,000 RPM ceramic bearings for relative inexpensive prices.
This would be so fun to make a concept model then move to a full on 4 cylinder head. here is the same concept only spheres. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjHkAgi9TbY
#16
Re: Cheapest bang for bucks for A12 without engineering
D
Posted on: 2016/8/21 2:41
I posted the Coates info many years ago and they spent big but is too complex to manufacture compared to the Saunders however the same ceramic coatings seem why they are possible.
This page shows some methods for education as ceramic coatings are used in jet turbines and have come down in prices since their introduction hence rotary valve engines are possible http://www.dynacer.com/materials/coatings/ however Korolon treatment is also interesting http://miti.cc/portfolio/low-friction ... perature-foil-bearings-2/ Korolon® High Temperature Coatings http://miti.cc/products/korolon-coatings/ Mohawk Innovative Technology, Inc. (MiTi) has developed the Korolon® high temperature coatings designed for applications requiring low friction, wear resistance, low thermal conductivity, and thermal and oxidation protection. These coatings have been specifically developed and evaluated for a wide temperature range from room temperature to 2,400oF (1,315 oC). The Korolon® coatings have been successfully used as solid film lubricants in high-speed and high-temperature rotating machinery while maintaining a low coefficient of friction and excellent wear resistance. The high temperature Korolon® coatings have been successfully evaluated as thermal and environmental barrier coatings (TBC/EBC) on static and rotating components requiring protection from harsh environments, such as in ramjet and gas turbine engines. Applications of Korolon® coatings: Oil-free, high speed foil bearings Oil-free, high speed foil seals Foil bearings in gas turbines TBC/EBC in ramjet simulator High speed micromachining spindle Oil-free, high speed air compressor Foil bearings in turboalternator/generator Foil bearings in fule cell compressor Foil bearings and seals in hydrogen compressor The Korolon® series includes both polymer-based and ceramic-based coatings. Extensive research and development have lead to refined processing methods to ensure a practical and cost-effective deposition method for coating metallic and ceramic substrates. Extensive durability testing has included high speed friction testing using journal and thrust foil bearings, adhesion testing using standard methods of bend testing, pull-testing and indentation testing; thermal stability and conductivity testing using conductive and convective heat methods; and full scale application simulation testing both in the laboratory and in the field.
#17
Re: Cheapest bang for bucks for A12 without engineering
ddgonzal
Posted on: 2016/8/21 3:12
Didn't Suzuki sell a rotary-valve motorcycle?
Would that be a cheap bang for the buck mod to an A12, certainly no engineering is needed
#18
Re: Cheapest bang for bucks for A12 without engineering
Mattndew76
Posted on: 2016/8/21 17:50
I have only been able to find a single piston cylinder head for a motorcycle.
#19
Re: Cheapest bang for bucks for A12 without engineering
ddgonzal
Posted on: 2016/8/22 0:26
So to recap:
Quote: Cheapest bang for bucks for A12 without engineering * Shaving the head to bump up comp gains 1% hp, and is among the easiest (but requires removing the head) * Swapping in larger engine up to 1346cc, can gain 10% * Fit Mitsubishi 4G32B pistons, milled flat, for 1300cc ($75 + boring/balancing costs), 10% gain * Fitting A14 crank & rods, head & cam, gains 16% (boring & balancing cost) * Domed pistons with singh grooves, 14:1 compression maybe 18% gain (requires E85 or off-road-only racing gasoline) * Increase revving. Gain 32% over 4,000 shifting. Cost: FREE * Supertune your A engine. FREE, gain up to 72% over untuned engine Did I miss any ideas? Under NCOP self-certification (no engineer needed) * Engine swaps up to 1346cc is allowed without engineering * Engine swap of equivalent engine (newer, etc) up to 20% power more than original
#20
Re: Cheapest bang for bucks for A12 without engineering
Mattndew76
Posted on: 2016/8/22 2:01
Does a new electronic ignition system need a engineer to sign off on it?
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