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1200/B210 Strut inserts
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1200/B210 Strut inserts

I'm making some coilovers and want to use a VW Golf Mark 1 strut insert

ive bought varias brans (mainly kyb/gabriel) and none of them fit

Does anyone no the part number for any golf mark 1 shocks that work in a 1200/120y strut tube???

Gabriel - G44217 (on 1200 wiki) is discontinued (according to all the suspension places i call)

thanks

anth

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Reportedly, Bilstein part number W0133-1604944 fits. And KYB 361005 Excel-G

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As you can see in the attaached photo, the shock 361005 is too big to fit

i messaged a person selling it on ebay they sent me the specs.

the shock kyb 361005 is 56.007mm (2.205inch) =[

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bummer. You can update the wiki article

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Actually i could be wrong aswell as miss-informed.

i think the specs that they have spent me are for the boxes.

http://www.autozone.com/suspension-st ... k-strut-front/734962_0_0/

as per this website the tube is 1.5inch (38.1mm)

I am still doing research !


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Product Details

Part Number: 361005
Weight: 4.2lbs
Notes: Strut cartridge
Except Sealed Struts. Recommended OE Replacement. Reuse original internal-threaded strut body nut on certain applications or replace with VW P/N 823412047. Quantity per car: 2. Shock/Strut should always be replaced in pairs.
Adjustable: No
Boot Included: No
Bushing Quantity Included: No
Cartridge Material: Steel tube
Color / Finish: Black
Gas Charged: Yes
Installation Hardware Included: Yes
Mounting Brackets Included: No
Package Contents: 1 Strut Cartridge, 1 Nut, 1 Gland Nut, 1 Spacer
Package Quantity: 1
Shaft Diameter (in): 0.8
Thread Size: 0
Tube Diameter (in): 1.5
Shipping Information: Overnight and Two Day shipping are not available for PO Box, APO/FPO/DPO or US Territory addresses.
This product may be shipped directly by the vendor to any eligible US addresses, excluding APO/FPO/DPO or US Territory addresses.


these specs of Gaberiel #G44754 (and aparently G44765 are the same but who nows) are no longer true
Gabriel has re-designed the shock to be 41.5mm due to the strut sitting in the VW GOLF MARK1 housing too loose.
I now this info is true because my friend about a year ago made a coilover kit using this shock and it was around 38.40mm
i bought this shock and it was too big (around 41.60mm aprox so 41.50 sounds right) so i sent it back..
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Fitting Position : Front Axle
Shock Absorber Type : Oil Pressure
Shock Absorber Design : Suspension Strut Insert
Shock Absorber System : Twin-Tube
Shock Absorber Mounting Type : Top pin
Diameter [mm] : 38,1
Thread Size : M14x1,5
Length 1 [mm] : 506
Length 2 [mm] : 334
Piston Rod Diameter [mm] : 20


still researching .............

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I have ordered the 361005

Going to hope that these are right if not im going to have to go with the n10 pulsar shocks which sucks because tehre only like 80mm shorter compared to 100

will update with photos / dimensions later if they are correct :)

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Anth94 I believe the koni vw shock is still the 38mm extend your budget and go them if your not happy settling for the n10 (if you can find them) or ae92 shocks

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do you have a part number by some chance?

anth

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I have some great news guys.

I bought some KYB Shocks part number 361005.

They are for a Volkswagen Golf (or Rabbit in america i beleive) , Mark 1 (or Mark I) 1975

They are 100mm shorter than the 120y/1200
my old 120y shocks were 38.25mm in OD
the golf shocks were 38.35mm in OD


I cut 100mm from my strut tube and my shock lock nut that screws in up the top of the strut holds the strut down perfect.
Probably could of cut another 10-20mm from the strut but then probably wont be able to fit any wheels haha.
there was also weld marks at the top of the shock that i had to slightly grind off so the shock could go all the way down into the strut tube.

i have attached a photo of my coilovers and the shock comparesson.

my coilovers are done and painted im in the middle of flipping my rear leafs right now, i wish i took a photo of the coilovers painted they looked really nice in a black finish :D

I will take the photos of my car when its on the ground so everyone can see how low it is going to be haha.

hopefully be on the road by tomorrow night ready for datsun day here in sydney on the 6th !

hope this helps some people.

anthh

photo links: (don't now how to make them apear here)
http://imgur.com/a/pAuZi
http://imgur.com/a/ota6l

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