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Re: Wide sump for A15
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The FWD sumps had the indents for the A15 as well as in OZ
some early pulsars had the 1.5 from what Ive been told by
a crazy early pulars enthusiast, best though to talk to
wombat racing he might now the exact data on those sumps.
The A14 sumps on rwd do and dont have the indents from
what I remember depends on the year model as there must
have been left over a15 sumps and they used them for late A14.

The external oil sandwich oil filter for twin ford filters
sounds like and excellent choice if you can mount them
somewhere accessible without causing oil pressure loss
like I wonder below the battery tray etc and moving battery
to the rear or somewhere else. Also Accusump units are
the bees knees for no loss of oil pressure even at startup.
Plenty of race cars use them instead of dry sumps.

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Reubytusday I will take some pics of my sump for you to. I do think I have an A14 FWD sump (steel) in the shipping container (200km away). I do know I have one of my spare alloy sumps in the shed here though.

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D,

On the remote oil filters, Its something worth considering, however, until I squeeze everyting into the engine bay, its hard to know if that sorts of extras will fit.

I have already accepted that air-con is in the too hard basket.
The battery tray has already been removed and the battery will be in the boot, so I do have some space there, but the radiator and intercooler will take up most of that space.

Oil cooler I think in front of the radiator in that small space between the front apron and the rad support.

Wombat,
When you get a chance for some pics, Id be keen on options for extra capacity.

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Tech wiki has good imfo on building your own winged metal sumps

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Yeah I read that thread before and had a look at Dodgemans porn collection.

That alloy datsunsport one looks good. Pity its not gated, but it looks PORN!

Thats the design im thinking. Just deepen the existing profile for the extra capacity, larger oil filter, and oil cooler should do the trick.

Just have to lengthen the pickup - thats the tricky bit.

Waiting for Peter Zerkart to get back to me with some info on his stash of stuff as well else ill just get cracking in the shed.
The sump will have to have a oil drain spot for a turbo anyways.

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Depth will be an issue
Since the bottom of the pan is about level with the bottom of the crossmember... and our cars don't sit too far off the ground
Certainly look at getting some wings and gates if your not dry sumping

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I’m going to fit a check valve to the oil lines
to alleviate drain back .
I am also fitting an oil cooler with its own fan which
I am fitting remotely on the right hand side of
the radiator behind the grill with twin temperature
sender units located at the oil pump feed and
return lines:which will be wired up to a single
gauge with twin read outs.I am a great
believer in having qualified data.

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Didnt think abot clearance - Thanks dattoman - wings it is then.

I have been thinking about how to best do that and make it look as 'factory' as i can - trying to avoid an ugly looking box on the side of the sump.

Thinking that i can cut up an spare a10/12 sump and weld that to the side. If I can utilse the original steel with the standard pressings, I should look as factory as possible.
Since Im only chasing a couple of extra litres, not an extra 10, I think that should work. - unless I can find one pre-done at a fair price point.


As for the drain back valves Datmado, I recon you want one in the pickup so that oil is kept all the way to the rocker oilers if possible.

The oil cooler (if i can) will be on the return side of the pump - machine up a plate that goes between the filter and the filter screw point - have two threaded fittings, in and out to the cooler so its part of the filter circuit.

With a higher volume oil pump and keeping everything in circuit, I should avoid having to use an external pump to drive the oil cooler

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2 ways I was thinking about adding wings to an A series sump
was to use a flat plate flange welded on the front end to suit
the fitment of an alloy sr20de front section eg.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/NISSAN-S13-S1 ... id=p2045573.c100033.m2042

the other is too just use rectangular box section pipe
2.x or 3mm thickness easy to reshape in rounded ends if
you wanted and much easier to weld up.
http://medien.sixbros.de/Artikelbilder/800px/10001217_1.jpg

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