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Re: engine weights
No life (a.k.a. DattoMaster)
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Nah dont know Bill but what a laugh to hear your budget beast beat open wheelers that have so much work done to them by "experts like him"

If you have probs with gearbox removal then I will have more than that on my dwarf.

Posted on: 2003/5/24 2:32
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Re: engine weights
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My car has the manual tunnel. only had to remove the mounting bracket (spot welded to the inside of the tunnel) on the drivers side to clear the reverse light. And cut the shift hole a bit longer. Also did some 'massaging' around where the tunnel meets the firewall to make it a little easier to get at the bellhousing bolts when fitting/removing the engine/box. I have since discovered it is almost impossible to change the box without removing the engine.

do you know Bill? I've met him a couple of times and have raced his Sprinter at a Khanacross at the Gold Coast Last year. I was faster by a couple of seconds on each test, but on one run my 12v feed to the dissy came off and I got a DNF (slowest time + 5 sec) for that run so he beat me overall.

Posted on: 2003/5/23 3:48
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Bill Sherwood weighed a t series celica split case alloy box at 25kgs dry if that helps.

For something different Atkings rotary whos been tuning rotaries since 1972 in the states, rates the bare 13b at 104kgs without waterpump, starter, manifolds, flywheel, clutch etc.
so maybe thats why Gary hamiltons 1000 is so fast round those curves, especially with the Peri-feral 330hp he claims.

I just got a downdraught 51mm IDA weber and a 45 sidedraft weber to suit a 13b and 10a respectively.
A full extend port (torquier from low rpm) 13b can produce 230hp with the 51 ida and tuned extractors. As where a 10a (to stay in the 2ltr and under class) with the sidedraft will only make 145hp unless I go for a 210hp Peripheral port. As for the amount of work required to fit the 13b as opposed an L18 thats a different challenge.

Thanks for your hard work, this will give us a better measure for what we need to consider.

Did you mod your tunnel for the box to fit or did you have an auto tunnel that made the difference in clearances??

Posted on: 2003/5/23 3:09
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some of you might remember a discussion a few weeks ago about the weights of A series and L series engines. I promised to weigh my L18 before refitting it, so here you go:

Engines

L18 113kg
dry, no manifolds, all accessories fitted except starter. includes flywheel (lightened) and clutch.

A12 85kg
dry, minus starter, water pump, and manifolds. includes lightened flywheel and clutch.

So the tech section looks pretty close.

Gearboxes:

Stanza 5spd 35kg
dry. with mount and my big heavy x-member (2.5kg).

MR30 Skyline stumpy 5spd 37.5kg
with mount & x-member, dry.

120Y 4spd 19kg
with mount & x-member, dry.

I should have weighed the alloy case Celica 5spd in the shed too as that's a common swap thanks to Dellow.

edit 22/09/03 I weighed the alloy case Celica box on the weekend:

Celica 5spd alloy case 29kgs
no x-member or mount, dry. with factory toyota 2T bellhousing.

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