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#1 Achieving 100rwkw
Tom Posted on: 2004/3/14 11:35
Hi,
i've set myself a goal of a 100kW (135 hp) rwkw's for a datsun 1200 ute (all theoretical at this stage) and am thinking of different engine options WITHOUT turbocharging.
current engine options include:
race prep A15 (not sure if 100 kw is achievable)
s/charged A14
CA18DE.....
OR possibly, the "dreaded" toyota engine swap of a 4AGE/GZE.
any theories/comments?
Cheers,
Tom


#2 Re: Achieving 100rwkw
dattodude Posted on: 2004/3/14 12:13

It'd need to be a "good race prep" to pull 100kW at the wheels. I've seen 78kw A15 in a 1000..was a quick little car.
A worked L18 might also fit the bill.
A supercharged/turbo'ed A14..Quite possible.
CA18DE, shouldn't be too hard, need an aftermarket computer.
Why not a CA18DET..I still think this is the best way to get good horses into a 1200.

Toyota stuff is pretty good, but I wouldn't do it, I like Helal horsepower, just like my kebabs.


#3 Re: Achieving 100rwkw
who_your_datty_1200 Posted on: 2004/3/14 12:19
An A14/15 s/charged motor is possible. A friend of a friend has done one and I am waiting to get the pics and info


#4 Re: Achieving 100rwkw
datsundonnie Posted on: 2004/3/14 19:01
Good luck with your plight! Just so you know, I've dyno tested my sedan, and got 108 rwhp from a stock 4AGE. I know that this is a touchy subject with some of the more picky guys, but it runs great and fits in nicely. With few mods(cam, compression, etc), 135 rwp shouldn't be too far off...
-Donnie


#5 Re: Achieving 100rwkw
barpk Posted on: 2004/3/14 22:10
Quote:

datsundonnie wrote:
Good luck with your plight! Just so you know, I've dyno tested my sedan, and got 108 rwhp from a stock 4AGE. I know that this is a touchy subject with some of the more picky guys, but it runs great and fits in nicely. With few mods(cam, compression, etc), 135 rwp shouldn't be too far off...
-Donnie

what GB r u running with the 4age?


#6 Re: Achieving 100rwkw
UTE18L Posted on: 2004/3/14 22:59
What would have to be done to get a 100rwkW out of a CA18DE?

Aftemarket computer, cams, intake, extractors?

Any suggestions for mine?

All i have is a CA18DE with K and N pod air filter and a 2.5 inch exhaust?

Cheers Henry


#7 Re: Achieving 100rwkw
DVLDAT Posted on: 2004/3/14 23:46
hay UTE18L
if i were looking for more power outer a N/A fuel injected ca18de motor i would do the folowing on a budget:
1x ga16de cam (more lift) cheaper option proven more power through out rev range.
2x get throttle body machined out slightly bigger.
3x remove the restricting plastic inbetween the pod (filter) to the trottlebody, replace with metal pipe also preferebly cold air inducted..
4x head work, ca18 motor really open up after having head work done.. rev better and much more power. can get anything from port and polish 2 a full 3000$ race head.
5x a good set of tuned length extractors will make a bg difference.
6x ive heard that a set of quad throttle bodys on the non turbo motor really make a difference which u would prolly have 2 run a aftermarket ECU 2 get the the bet outer them.

hope al this info gives u a better idea on what can be done to these motors...


#8 Re: Achieving 100rwkw
tsillay Posted on: 2004/3/15 0:28
mm, go the CA18DE normally aspirated.
I've done a CA16DE N/A, got 107 wheel KWs, but it needed a fair bit of work and a few RPM to make it happen...

The CA18DE has bigger inlet valves than the 1600, same stroke but more bore, so it's a much better starting point. They're a joy of an engine, the modern long stroke stuff (SR etc) cant come close to the free-reving happiness of a CA...


#9 Re: Achieving 100rwkw
UTE18L Posted on: 2004/3/15 0:57
Thanks DVLDAT and tsillay for that info,that info was a great help as i dont want to spend too much as i plan to upgrade to CA18DET. What would i expect to pay for such work and what power figures should i achieve??

Does anyone know of any CA16 cams about, ive been searching Sydney, Aus for some time now with no luck.

Cheers Henry

Can someone please help me identify my diff, a pic is in the photos section-Henry


#10 Re: Achieving 100rwkw
A14force Posted on: 2004/3/15 6:17
Stick a N2O bottle on it. As long as you dont go silly she'll be fine.



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