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#1 LPG?
Wurzel Posted on: 2007/5/28 2:45
Ok I didnt want to hijack the cheapo turbo thread...but its got me wondering...
Has anyone done the ultimate in fuel misering and gone LPG on a 1200?
would it even fit under the bonnet?

And as was mentioned in the turbo thread...turbo AND LPG???

Thoughts?
Photos?


#2 Re: LPG?
perthute Posted on: 2007/5/28 3:06
quick hijack can a turbo be on gas ????????
it seems morally wronge


#3 Re: LPG?
converted Posted on: 2007/5/28 3:38
na i reckon its a great idea. Cheap easy horsepower, lower intake tamps, and the govt grant makes sure you can get $2000 back for every private vehicle install. I reckon do it.
I lose no power with it installed on my landcruiser and Im saving close to 1/3 on fuel bills. Why pay for $1.35/litre when u dont have to??


#4 Re: LPG?
BUNDY351 Posted on: 2007/5/28 4:09
I had a twin throttle body gas research setup on my old XY ute and it, once tuned correctly had more power than the holly that was on it. It had the same fuel comsumption but was half the cost to fill up.

Allot of people run turbos on lpg as it cuts done on a few items like fuel pumps and regulators. This is cause the LPG is stored under great pressure. GRA (GasResearch Australia) do blow through and draw through setups to suit most applications.

Putting LPG on a 1200 would be so sweet cause thay are so economical already, the only downside is the initial cost to set up (although you will be refunded $2000 by the goverment, EVENTUALLY) and the other possible down side is the size of the LPG tank and fitting it to the vehicle, our cars, even utes are limmited on space already.

Another option is a company in Perth have developed LPG ELECTRONIC INJECTION using special LPG injectors and some other stuff, very cool, lots of tuneable power to be gained and half the price unleaded, what more do you want


#5 Re: LPG?
wagon1200 Posted on: 2007/5/28 6:01
ooh yes LPG and turbo on a 4 cylinder work great as long as it is dedicated to 1 fuel not dual fuel. LPG has a slower burn rate than petrol so it is not so detremental with the tuning as petrol.

I had a Gemini 1.6 turbo with a gt25 bb turbo, blow through a GRA 350 CFM throttle body. worked great, cheap a chips to run. Low comp setup on cast pistons and it used to take 20 psi all day everyday. If you do a few feeway km's daily it would be a great setup.






#6 Re: LPG?
trb012 Posted on: 2007/5/28 7:48
Yeah lgp works well as long as you get it tuned and set up proply it should be reliable and make good power


#7 Re: LPG?
denuto Posted on: 2007/5/28 8:11
Full lpg setup for sale here


#8 Re: LPG?
shaun Posted on: 2007/5/28 9:18
my old setup used to run on lpg
a14 turbo engine bay


#9 Re: LPG?
B210sleeper Posted on: 2007/5/28 17:30
It's wrong because it works so well. i think we may start to see the lpg turbo as the next wave in tuner stuff, performance and cheap fuel.

I burn only LPG and the plan has always been to turbo. Why at a CR above 12:1 LPG makes more power than petrol ;) doing a turbo on most lpg systems is easy, I got a vaporizer that had a boost balance hookup knowing that it would be worth a few $ more.

I use OMVL and autronic equipment, variable venturi mixer, like SU carb, and a GA16 throttlebody with an adaptor to attach to the standard intake mani.

The car performs differently now, at least as good as petrol, but with some new features, like never pinging ever, LPG seems to be less efficient accelerating but more efficient cruising ... so 33mpg at 80mph is totally possible. holding 75-80 in 5 th gear on long grades is easy, frustrating petrol drivers of all sorts who bought 87 octane to save some $ I optomiozed for lower rpm operation, round port intake, since lpg mixes well at very low speeds, when turboed the plan will be to have the boost come on early and never need to take it over 6k. Not that you can't make a topend power setup, it's not where i need it.

I pay 1/2 what petrol costs now. Oil changes are 'optional' change the filter every 3k add oil if it burns any, change the oil when you feel guilty.

This engine has never been run on petrol since the last rebuild, so is totally clean inside.

Now all this fun and money saving doesn't some without some disadvantages...

people are afraid of LPG and its perceived nastyness
finding fuel can be a challenge if you go on a trip
Since you are in an LPG friendly country you have helps for mechanical work - here we're on our own.
Service parts come from europe
Unknown issues if you want to take the car to a autocross or other event, the octane will give you an advantage.

I need to post a video of getting on the highway to hear the sound it makes, it's a lovely noise when it opens up...






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