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Which trans is which...?
chandlerGTi
Posted on: 2008/10/16 0:59
Is there a casting number on each trans that tells what version it is? I got a 210 5-spd for my 1200 but I want to be sure that it really is before I get to far into it. I know in VWs it is stamped into a plate on the bottom...do we have the same thing and if so what numbers mean what? Thanks in advance
Chandler
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Re: Which trans is which...?
Bluemax
Posted on: 2008/10/16 1:02
on the side of the trans should read 60. cast into the right side of the case
#3
Re: Which trans is which...?
chandlerGTi
Posted on: 2008/10/16 1:10
What options are there and what are the differences. I want the lightest strongest 5 spd and was pointed toward the 78 B210 5-spd as the choice.
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Re: Which trans is which...?
conehead
Posted on: 2008/10/16 1:22
The 60 series is a factory overdrive 5 spd.
it is either a 60a or 60L. If it is an A then it is traditional h pattern with 5 above R on the right hand side. An L has reverse in the top left corner and is known as a dogleg The only other lightweight factory 5 spd is the 56a which is NOT overdrive but has a 1:1 5th gear. Not as strong as a 60, but it is horses for coarses What engine are you running etc etc.
#5
Re: Which trans is which...?
chandlerGTi
Posted on: 2008/10/16 1:31
Well it is a A12A. I'm figuring 150 or so horsepower based on what some other SCCA guys have out of them. It will be a few months before I get it together but I want to be sure I have the right one so I can mark it off of the list for now!
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Re: Which trans is which...?
conehead
Posted on: 2008/10/16 3:17
stick to the 60 series for that power
#7
Re: Which trans is which...?
ddgonzal
Posted on: 2008/10/16 3:52
Both 5-speeds for 210 (B310) are the same strength. The 1979 "60L" has the dogleg shift pattern, and 1980-1982 "60A" has the regular shift pattern.
The rare 56a 5-speed was used behind A12 and A13 racing engines. The horsepower doesn't affect the transmission, it is the torque that does. It is fairly easy to brake a 56-series, the racers treated them gently. And don't forget the other factory 5-speed: the 63A from the 1976-1978 B210. It's a big heavy gun of a sun. Overkill for an A12/A13, or even for an an A15.
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Re: Which trans is which...?
chandlerGTi
Posted on: 2008/10/17 1:38
Ah crap, I just got a 63A..haha goes to show I should have asked this a week ago before I started my JY crawl!
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Re: Which trans is which...?
Dodgeman
Posted on: 2008/10/17 7:22
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Serious racers over here are managing to get about 120hp at the road wheel from dedicated race engines & the trans of choice seems to be a Toyota unit, because they are bulletproof, available & cheap. The downside is the price of the adapter kit. The 63 series trans is the one they used behind the L series engines, but with an A series bellhousing so it's plenty tough & if you are going all out racing, it would be the better choice as far as absolute strength goes. The 63 series trans was never sold in an A series powered car over here, which propells the choice of the Toyota alternative. If you're running the A12A I presume that you're keeping it under 1300cc for class racing purposes & this is a good choice as the rods in these use the larger 19mm wrist oin which allows you to use the A14 pistons, giving you a wide choice of bore sizes & capacities. It's unlikely that you will kill the 63 trans with a 1300 engine, but just remember that with strength, & the resulting reliability, comes weight. You can view topic.
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