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this kind of took me by surprise aswell. I think his point was, and if you follow it through, with this final comment in mind, it does make sense. What he is saying is that over the years the definition has become more and more blurred (you could say, i suppose "evolved"as some one put it). In typical aussie style, we don't worry too much about the definition, and we just call anything with a tray or load area of some description a ute.

Well, thanks to everyone who contributed, & a special big thanks to those woth informed opinions.
To briefly respond to a couple of comments directly addressed to me.

TeamDat
The well-body Holden & the one tonner version of the same model are both grouped under the general heading of "commercial vehicle" in the same way that the four door Sedan & the Monaro two door are both "passenger cars"
The ute is a ute, & the one tonner is a cab chassis, or tray back, or any number of things, depending on what is bolted to the rear of the chassis. The current Falcon [the one that bears some similarity to a ute] is a pickup, regardless of what the factory calls it.
The landcruiser pickup is not a ute for the same reason. IE It does not have a one piece body from the rearmost door opening to the tailgate. It really is that simple.

Blair. Draw? I don't think so. By definition, thats an impossibility. A ute is either a ute in it's own right, or it isn't. We can't both be right.

Dazzasute. Thanks for coming up with the info. I am quite surprised at the final statement though. It would seem that the author has gone to a lot of trouble to come up with the correct description of an Aussie ute, then to basicly go & say, "but if you want to call any similar [but not identical] cargo vehicle a ute, then go for it" That strikes me as being a cop out, but i don't have a copy of the book, so i will now try to find one.

By now, everyone who has been following along knows what a ute ACTUALLY is, even if they can't bring themselves to admit it, & prefer to apply a double standard by correctly naming passenger models, but not their commercial brethren.
The part that has me stumped is that, once these people are in posession of the facts, they chose to ignore them & go blythely on their way. Thats what i call "aquired ignorance"


My_lil_beast. I thank you for your contribution, but when i read the last bit of your post, i thought,... you know this subject is not what you want to read about, so why read it?
Yeah, i know, same as me, can't help yourself.

For me, my comments in "this" thread, end here.

well said

Hey guys

Dodgerman was right, the only way to figure this out is by doing a little research. So I did exactly that. Went to the library where I found a book,

Doh, it's a ute and it's a pickup. Put a dog in the back and head over to Corrigin! I'd be going myself if I lived in the region.

what is my 1200 is it a ute or a pick up because anyone with an original owners manual will know it is called a pick up on the front cover. This is a datsun site right, OH sorry you Wouldnt know with all the talk of fords, holdens and other cars that this site is not about.
Lets keep it datsun people.
Cheers Luke

errr.... mightyboy? oh you mean the wheel barrow... right...

didn't want to mention the name, especially on this site...

(ok so i brought it up in the first place.. sorry)

all this yet no mention that the mighty boy is still a pice of crap.... how disapointing

so are you saying a well body holden HZ ute is a ute but a 1 tonner HZ is a comercial vehicle?

if so you have your head up your arse, you say land cruisers utes aren't derived from a passenger vehicle what about the 5 seater landcruiser's ones with a roofed rear, that ,means the AU falcon ute is either a ute or a commercial just because one has a tray that ispart of the body and one is a commercial becuase it has a tray?
sorry but it doesn't fit

and if you do believe this and then do have your head up your arse DM then you have never seen TV to hear people call their utes "trucks" in America i am american and i have to say get all your facts right DM before you tell people to get theirs right first.


i'm done i don't need an arms length post to ham on in

HAHAHA! Thanks lil man.

Love ya Beautiful xxx